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Re: Brexit
« Reply #270 on: December 14, 2019, 02:43:11 PM »
Another opinion:
8 Takeaways From The UK Election Result



    (1) Brexit is done. The UK will withdraw from the EU under the terms of Boris Johnson’s Brexit Withdrawal Agreement. Although the larger question of the future trading arrangement will remain, Boris can tout formal delivery of his promise for the UK to leave the EU.

    (2) Extension of transition period. Of course, within the Withdrawal Agreement is a transition period for the UK to remain in the Single Market until the end of 2020. During this time, a new trading arrangement must be negotiated, but this will be extremely difficult within the deadline. Therefore, the UK will probably ask for an extension of the transition period in the first half of 2020. The fact that the UK will have already exited the EU combined with the size of Boris’ majority should reduce the risk of any hard Brexit factions within the Conservative party from derailing this process.

    (3) The UK has leverage over the EU. For the past three years, a disunited UK government has been met by a united EU. Now, the roles will be reversed. The UK has a strong majority government – effectively first in ten years – while the EU’s division on how to approach the UK will be exposed. A critical one will be the EU’s security arrangement.

    France’s Macron recently wanted to demote the importance of NATO and create a stronger European military power, while Germany’s Merkel continues to cite its importance. The UK is the other big military power within Europe along with France, and so could be pivotal in any future arrangement. Put another way: look at EU member Estonia. It shares a border with Russia and relies on NATO protection. How would it vote in any UK Brexit deal? Would it care more about the UK’s role in NATO or customs checks on the Irish border with the UK?

    Aside from security concerns, every EU member will have to consider its economic relationships with the UK.

    (4) The UK will avoid hard Brexit. While no deal will be as good as staying in the EU, the likely deal will be in the ‘soft Brexit’ category. This should remove the worst of the potential ‘hard Brexit’ consequences such as punitive tariffs and regulatory barriers with the EU and soften the transition. With the North and the Midlands forming important new power bases for the Conservatives, delivering a positive outcome for the industrial sector – notably the auto sector – will be critical for the Conservatives.

    (5) Austerity is over. First, there has been a global shift away from austerity whether in the US or even IMF recommendations. Second, the Conservative manifesto has promised more public spending and typically the Conservatives overshoot manifesto promises. Third, given the new geographical gains, the Conservatives will likely focus on poverty alleviation. This means austerity is out, and fiscal stimulus is in. This should also provide another cushion during any transition period.

     (6) Taxes have to rise somewhere. With a probable ambitious public spending programme, tax revenues will have to increase. Growth alone is probably insufficient. At the same time, the Conservatives have promised not to raise income taxes or VAT. So we may see other forms of taxes increasing – perhaps the most likely would be property. The current system of property taxes not being as tied to property values as in other countries would be an obvious reform. Effectively, this would be a wealth tax – another new idea that has garnered interest in policy circles. Whatever the specifics, though, taxes will have to rise somewhere.

     (7) Scottish risks. The other big winner was the Scottish National Party (SNP) – they almost had a clean sweep in Scotland. This will likely bring to the fore calls for a Scottish independence vote. While the UK parliament will probably deny one, the SNP could institute an informal vote. This provides some political uncertainty in the years to come, though the economic impact on the UK at large would be limited.

    (8) Labour party still at risk post-Corbyn. In 1983, Labour leader Michael Foot suffered one of the party’s worst defeats. Back then, it struggled to recover for over a decade. Foot had laid out a hard left economic agenda as well as, ironically, a Brexit position – at the time both were seen by the electorate as too radical. Corbyn has now surpassed Foot’s failure. Will Labour’s internal dynamics see this as a problem with Corbyn or a problem with their policy platform? If they view it solely as the former, replacing him but keeping the same policy platform, the Labour party could risk years in the wilderness.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #271 on: December 14, 2019, 08:59:40 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/13/world/europe/scotland-northern-ireland-secession.html

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In Scotland a constitutional crisis looms after the dominant Scottish National Party made significant gains, winning 48 of 59 seats, and said it would press its demands for a second independence referendum — something that Mr. Johnson has already rejected.

The background in Northern Ireland is more complicated. But for the first time in its history, the territory elected more nationalist members of Parliament, who support reunification with the Republican of Ireland, than unionists, who wish to remain a part of the United Kingdom.

Though the situations are quite different in Scotland and Northern Ireland, the common thread is Brexit, a project supported by English and Welsh voters but opposed by majorities in Scotland and Northern Ireland in the 2016 Brexit referendum.

“Brexit has completely transformed the debate in Northern Ireland,” said Daniel Keohane, an Irish political analyst. “Before Brexit, no one seriously thought a united Ireland would happen anytime soon. Now it’s a very real prospect based on these results.”


From this outsider's perspective this all seems insane considering the  history of the UK.  In the course of 150 years you've went from "the sun never sets" to potentially being England and maybe Wales (looks like there is a Welsh independence movement growing).



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Re: Brexit
« Reply #272 on: January 27, 2020, 08:39:16 PM »
All done and dusted in a few days, happening just a case of how the separation happens.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #273 on: January 30, 2020, 03:31:33 AM »
Scottish parliament votes to hold new independence referendum

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Scotland’s pro-independence government says Brexit changes everything. Britain as a whole voted narrowly in 2016 to leave the EU, but voters in Scotland opted by a large margin to remain.

The UK’s long-delayed exit from the EU is due to take place Friday.

"We stand just two days from losing our EU membership and all of the rights that go with it,” said Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon.

"In my view, it is beyond doubt now that the only realistic way for Scotland to return to the heart of Europe and to ensure we get the governments we vote for is to become an independent country,” Sturgeon said.

Scottish lawmakers also voted to keep the European Union flag flying outside the Scottish Parliament after Brexit.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #274 on: December 10, 2020, 07:37:02 PM »

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #275 on: January 18, 2021, 09:46:36 PM »
So, UK got Brexit   ....and lots & lots of paperwork.  My feeds have had several articles all along the same lines.  The TLDR is that a great many of these businesses had never experienced customs requirements while accessing their major EU markets.

UK seafood trucks protest at Parliament over Brexit red tape
https://apnews.com/article/brexit-europe-london-boris-johnson-556ba6c9d8aa238ebb43428819fb807b
« Last Edit: January 18, 2021, 10:03:32 PM by rcjordan »

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #276 on: January 19, 2021, 02:43:22 AM »
A client just asked me to disable checkout for anyone with a UK shipping address because it has become too complicated to deal with given the number of UK sales he gets. Basically, they need to have goods shipped to a friend in some other country and then shipped to the UK if they want to buy his wares.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #277 on: January 19, 2021, 03:01:40 AM »
>disable checkout for anyone with a UK shipping address because it has become too complicated to deal

I saw stories of ebay vendors canceling UK orders because they were being required to file so much paperwork.

Also here:
UK is now asking overseas firms to apply and collect British taxes
http://th3core.com/talk/marketing/uk-is-now-asking-overseas-firms-to-apply-and-collect-british-taxes/msg71205/#msg71205
« Last Edit: January 19, 2021, 03:04:03 AM by rcjordan »

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #279 on: April 19, 2021, 08:13:09 PM »
>ebay

Ebay has some side business where they handle all the customs & VAT for sales from the US to the UK.  I've had a couple of orders this way in recent months.  We ship to some warehouse in Florida and then they pass it on.  Seems to be a smart move for eBay to make the most out of the mess.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #280 on: October 16, 2022, 09:30:49 PM »

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #281 on: October 17, 2022, 12:38:40 AM »
British PM Truss totters as Conservatives meet this week on possible ouster

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #282 on: October 23, 2022, 02:30:49 AM »

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #283 on: October 23, 2022, 03:51:52 AM »
Brits:  Do you see this happening?

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #284 on: October 23, 2022, 07:19:41 AM »
Not at the moment, too much else going on.

I do think if there was another referendum, the vote would swing to rejoin though. Generally more people feel they were sold a pup who voted for out, and now regret it, than the other way. Any the remainers are all still remainers.

Bloody Boris and Cameron!!! Boris seems to have many strong attributes, but such a train wreck at times.

we have stopped selling suits to the EU. Paperwork costs more than the value of the business, and then if they want to send it back.... ahhhh.  painful. Bureaucrats in the way. Welsh mussel farms closed down.... a cheese company I know stopped exporting.

A Disaster! I would welcome another vote.
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