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Why We Are Here => Economics & Investing => Topic started by: rcjordan on September 19, 2022, 02:43:49 PM

Title: Degrowth is not austerity it is actually just the opposite
Post by: rcjordan on September 19, 2022, 02:43:49 PM

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/9/19/degrowth-is-not-austerity-it-is-actually-just-the-opposite
Title: Re: Degrowth is not austerity it is actually just the opposite
Post by: rcjordan on September 21, 2022, 01:57:51 PM
Here ya go, EG...

The De-Population Bomb | Hoover Institution
https://www.hoover.org/research/de-population-bomb
Title: Re: Degrowth is not austerity it is actually just the opposite
Post by: ergophobe on September 21, 2022, 04:16:45 PM
Ha ha! It's funny how many people just absolutely do not believe me when I say the best evidence is that population will peak this century and we don't really know what happens in a contracting global population.
Title: Re: Degrowth is not austerity it is actually just the opposite
Post by: rcjordan on September 21, 2022, 06:49:09 PM
This paragraph nailed it for 1st-world countries --particularly the US;

"As parents, we know how wonderful children are and what a blessing it is to be a parent. But one thing that I will say about children is for all of their boundless benefits, they're not convenient. And we have moved increasingly into a world, and this is just one take on a much more complicated set of questions that you've asked, but we've moved into a world in which convenience is prized and in which autonomy, personal autonomy is cherished. And in which constraints on personal autonomy are increasingly viewed as onerous."
Title: Re: Degrowth is not austerity it is actually just the opposite
Post by: ergophobe on September 25, 2022, 02:53:49 PM
I would add two things...

 - we have also moved into a world where a woman does not need a man to survive and thrive, which pushes marriage rates down. People get married because they find what they think will be their true love, not because you need to be married to be a fully formed adult or to have a decent standard of living.

 - and children are a "blessing" but not an economic necessity that are worth the inconvenience in the long run.

In other words, the "convenience" argument is the heads to the tails of the "necessity" argument that would have been dominant in times past.