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littleman

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Re: 11 facts about San Francisco's housing market
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2020, 01:29:47 AM »
As a teen I spent some time in Kansas and I absolutely loved the sky there, it seemed so vast.

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Re: 11 facts about San Francisco's housing market
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2020, 04:25:14 AM »
>>>olitically , California's s foundering because of the wretched political correctness and self-proclaimed Wokeness

That is spot on.  I read a research study the other day about homelessness in San Francisco. The author's politically correct unwillingness to "blame the victim" led her to blame society and the economy. She ignored the obvious twin issues of  drug and mental health problem that is at root of probably the majority of homelessness in San Francisco (at least from the sixties to the mid-2000's when I lived there).

Consequently, the solutions she prescribed (more affordable housing) ignored things like more drug abuse counselling, more mental health facilities and the like.

Hell, a kid who grew up in the house next door (and is now in is late 50's) was arrested in December for panhandling on CalTrain and attacking a train worker. He's homeless because he's mentally ill. He inherited a million dollar home and let it go to sh## and was thrown out. 

In the 1990's I walked past a homeless beggar that looked like a human cockroach, smelly, filthy and wretched. Turns out I went to grade school with him. His demise was crack.

When I lived in the Mission in the 1980's through the early 2000's, there was a fat old hag that used to ply her body on two blocks away. When I saw her boyfriend, a thin ratty man who looked to be twenty years older I recognized them. The woman was younger than I and he was about my age. He was dating her since high school. He used to be handsome mixed race boy, part black and white. The teenaged girl went to a Catholic high school where my own girlfriend attended as well. They were both hooked on heroin.

Seriously, how can one address a homelessness without acknowledging the root problems of mental illness and drugs?

As far as the base price of a home in 2000 as $420,000 that's incorrect.  As I recall the base price of a home was closer to $700,000. By 2004, when I was in the market, you couldn't buy a condo in Berkeley for less than $500,000 and homes were already selling for around $700k.

That Millenium Tower is going to collapse during the next major earthquake. Remember what happened to the landfill specials in the Marina in 1989? They all sunk. If that building is sinking now, in an earthquake the water is going to rush in and shift the sand beneath it. Large portions of south of market were destroyed in 1989.

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Re: 11 facts about San Francisco's housing market
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2020, 05:31:32 PM »
Well, I would hardly blame liberals for that.

The two watershed moments that led to California homelessness of the mentally ill were
1. 1967 - Massive cuts to the CA Department of Mental Hygiene and the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act which made involuntary hospitalization illegal (which from a personal freedom point of view was a good thing, but coupled with cuts to DMH, was disastrous).

2. 1981 - Repeal of the Mental Health Systems Act on the federal level.

Who was the governor of CA in 1967 who drove the massive cuts to DMH? The same guy who was president in 1981 who drove the repeal of the Mental Health Systems Act.

https://www.kqed.org/news/11209729/did-the-emptying-of-mental-hospitals-contribute-to-homelessness-here
https://www.salon.com/2013/09/29/ronald_reagans_shameful_legacy_violence_the_homeless_mental_illness/

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Re: 11 facts about San Francisco's housing market
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2020, 11:54:17 PM »
Oh totally. We never had pan handlers on the scale of today until Reagan was in office. Of course there was Proposition 13 (was that it?) the tax revolt thing that lowered housing taxes and gutted the counties without a plan for how police, fire, schools and public hospitals would be funded, leading ultimately to the state debt that went out of control from constant borrowing.

I don't blame liberals for the homeless problem. But they did fail to properly address it. Mayors Art Agnos and Frank Jordan were the worst, they basically ignored the problem. Remember the homeless camp in front of City Hall in SF? OMG, what a sh## show that was.