Author Topic: Recession 2019/2020 Mega-thread (putteth all thy strange eruption in h're)  (Read 207966 times)

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Jobless Claims Near 1 Million in Canada, Crushing Weekly Record

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-24/jobless-claims-are-said-to-soar-to-nearly-1-million-in-canada

Multiply x10 for U.S.

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The stimulus bill is more balanced than I anticipated.

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I call it a "rescue" bill.
Stimulus may come later, if needed.
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A Major Medical Staffing Company Just Slashed Benefits for Doctors and Nurses Fighting Coronavirus

"Alteon Health, a staffing company backed by private-equity firm Frazier Healthcare Partners, will cut salaries, time off and retirement benefits for providers, citing lost revenue. Several hospital operators announced similar cuts."

https://www.propublica.org/article/coronavirus-er-doctors-nurses-benefits

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>Slashed Benefits

And so private healthcare begins to crumble in the US.

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Alteon Health

« Last Edit: April 01, 2020, 10:45:30 AM by Mackin USA »
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And so private healthcare begins to crumble in the US.

A friend who is part of a large group was saying they had recently conducted a study and asked what would happen if every patient paid Medicaid rates. They result was that the physicians would make $16/hour. This was not a deep study and did not count any efficiency from laying off the billing department, but even if that's 25% savings, that doesn't change the basic equation.

The point of this conversation was that he was saying that what makes the practice lucrative, is elective surgeries for people with good, private insurance.

So fast forward to now:
 - physicians are super busy and starting to get run down (60 to 80 hours)
 - no elective surgeries
 - higher than normal proportion of patients on Medicaid, Medicare or no insurance at all
 - the admin and support staff currently receiving full pay. Payroll is unchanged
 - rent on office space, malpractice insurance, etc, etc is unchanged

At the current burn rate, he says they hit bankruptcy in 4-6 months if the patient mix stays the same.

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More bad news:
Nearly 60 Percent of U.S. Workers Won't Be Able to Meet Their Basic Financial Needs Under One-Month Coronavirus Quarantine, Survey Shows

Also, 3.5 million Social Security recipients (read retired & disabled people) will not receive a stimulus check. 

There will be no additional help for families with older dependents (17-24).  I don't quite get the logic there, even if they think teens and young adults should be in the work force, it makes no sense to use that logic when they are forced to stay home during quarantine. 
« Last Edit: April 01, 2020, 07:11:28 PM by littleman »

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Here's who won't get a stimulus check:
People who haven't filed 2018 and 2019 tax returns.

Crap! I have not filed yet. My accountant filed for an extension because I'm late and at this point in the tax season nobody is getting a rush job.

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Ah... that journalist is not a programmer. Their Boolean logic is off. It should read: "Have not filed 2018 OR 2019 taxes"

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I haven't filed my 2019 taxes yet. Does that matter?
No. The government will base its checks on either your 2019 or 2018 tax filing. If you haven't filed your 2019 taxes yet — and many people haven't, given the IRS has delayed its tax filing deadline from April 15 to July 15 — the government will use your 2018 tax returns to determine your stimulus payment.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stimulus-checks-coronavirus-relief-package-how-much-when/

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Brace for the ‘deepest recession on record,’ says BofA analysts, as jobless claims surge to 6.6 million - MarketWatch

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/brace-for-the-deepest-recession-on-record-says-bofa-analysts-as-jobless-claims-surge-to-66-million-2020-04-02


Great headline, btw.  Brace!!

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"About half of UK companies are planning to furlough many of their staff because of coronavirus, according to surveys that threaten a much higher cost to the Treasury than expected."

I think someone straight out of school could have told them that.

https://www.ft.com/content/8e2c0615-f2af-4885-a9bf-78deeb94bc80?fbclid=IwAR1Rwr7xAgAkgSkYOtscEEpMrg56BwiCKSfwcKmDKWxC0zlcv8tYEo_xaRg

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The data speak: Stronger pandemic response yields better economic recovery | MIT News
http://news.mit.edu/2020/pandemic-health-response-economic-recovery-0401