The Core
Why We Are Here => Economics & Investing => Topic started by: ergophobe on December 10, 2019, 07:01:10 PM
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Sorry guys, no it is not CA.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/united-van-lines-national-movers-study-reveals-americans-are-moving-west-and-south-300771327.html
This is from Jan 2019. Should have then 2019 numbers in a month or so
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This started from a Forbes article based on United Van Lines data that was a PITA slideshow. That said Illinois was #1. Maybe they got a pre-release on the 2019 data or maybe it was older data.
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I am very happy to see California in homeostasis, though I'm sure the immigrant population boom is not fully reflected in that data. Kansas will give people free land if they agree to stay for enough time or start a business.
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I think it is worth throwing these stats into the mix for a better picture of what is happening.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_median_age
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_fertility_rate
Check out how fertility rates are falling!
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Adding one more...
U.S. Immigrant Population by State and County (https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/us-immigrant-population-state-and-county)
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immigrant population boom
Ya. Probably not moving with United Van Lines. I would say that data skews toward the upper end of the economic scale and completely misses anyone who moves themselves.
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Wow. New Englanders are old and Nebraskans are having a (relatively) lot of unprotected sex!
I'm surprised at the variation among states (not counting territories, where things are very different). Maine is almost 50% older than Utah.
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>Kansas will give people free land if they agree to stay for enough time or start a business.
Yes, they will. However, the school system is crap, so few take advantage of it. And I don't blame them.
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>Nebraskans are having a (relatively) lot of unprotected sex!
It's because they are poor and can't afford birth control. The poverty rate in my town in Kansas is heart breaking. No jobs, no hope.
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From what I'm reading, a crapload of them are moving to NC --looks like we're going to increase by 900k since last census. But the flow, both in-state and from outside, is to urban areas.
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Vermont, Oklahoma and Now Topeka, Kan., Want You - The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/14/automobiles/Move-to-Topeka-Kansas.html
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People fleeing California are changing the political landscape of the American Southwest.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/08/12/how-californians-moving-to-nevada-are-changing-the-states-politics/
From NYTimes
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/opinion/california-revenge-trump.html
"In Nevada...Democrats won the governor’s mansion and a second U.S. Senate seat in 2018."
"Colorado... is now reliably blue. Democrats won majorities there by more than 100,000 votes in the last two presidential elections. "
"Arizona could be the next to fall to Democrats.
Trump won Arizona by 91,000 votes. But in 2018, the quirky Kyrsten Sinema became the first Democrat to win a Senate seat since 1988, with a victory margin of about 56,000 votes.
Looking at this year’s electoral map, Arizona is a wild card.
Texas, the top state for California exiles, will probably come up short for Democrats this year, though it’s in play. Democrats have a growing advantage in Dallas, Houston, Austin and San Antonio, all seeing heavy U-Haul traffic from California."
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Yes, seeing a lot of anti-Californian articles about Texas, Idaho, etc. It's like a repeat of the Californication meme in Oregon years ago. Even so, everyone I know who leaves goes to Portland or Bend. But of course, they are mountain people looking for other mountain areas.
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>Californication
It is two folds though right? I mean, there is the culture, but there is also the economic impact. Californians spreading to the NE and SW tend to drive real estate prices up, causing resentment with the locals. My response to that is that most of the influx is due to hordes of people from the rest of the country (and world) buying property and raising rents here. Literally everyone I knew in high school moved to more affordable areas. Unfortunately, most of them went to places like Fresno and Modesto where their quality of life went down -- I'd much rather live in Oregon.
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Live in Oregon
WE DID
Eastern Oregon Wants A Divorce: County-By-County Initiative Underway To Join Idaho
imo: It will fail but ya get the idea...
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drive real estate prices up,
Yes, mostly that. And it was ever so. When religious refugees poured into Geneva in the 1550s, it created a terrible housing crunch and intense, sometimes violent clashes between refugees (like John Calvin) and natives.