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U.S. House unanimously approves sweeping self-driving car measure
« on: September 07, 2017, 06:48:10 AM »
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-selfdriving/u-s-house-unanimously-approves-sweeping-self-driving-car-measure-idUSKCN1BH2B2?feedType=RSS&feedName=technologyNews

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The U.S. House on Wednesday unanimously approved a sweeping proposal to speed the deployment of self-driving cars without human controls by putting federal regulators in the driverís seat and barring states from blocking autonomous vehicles.

The House measure, the first significant federal legislation aimed at speeding self-driving cars to market, would allow automakers to obtain exemptions to deploy up to 25,000 vehicles without meeting existing auto safety standards in the first year. The cap would rise over three years to 100,000 vehicles annually.


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Re: U.S. House unanimously approves sweeping self-driving car measure
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2017, 02:42:37 PM »
A month ago, I read the the Teamsters are HEAVILY lobbying to block anything above 10,000 pounds. 

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Re: U.S. House unanimously approves sweeping self-driving car measure
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2017, 03:18:22 PM »
>10,000

That's where the money is, but yeah they need to perfect the technology first on something smaller first.  You don't want 18 wheelers running amok.

I'm still skeptical about this, wait until some self driving car encounters a squirrel and a huge pothole at the same time and runs into a house.

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Re: U.S. House unanimously approves sweeping self-driving car measure
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2017, 03:28:06 PM »
>You don't want 18 wheelers running amok.

Screw it, I say turn 'em loose.  Half the truckers are jacked up on something anyway. The other half are texting some truckstop lizard while they drive.

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Re: U.S. House unanimously approves sweeping self-driving car measure
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2017, 03:56:05 PM »
There is lots of talk about how efficient traffic will be when this technology is well deployed.  I was thinking that these vehicles have a good chance of actually lumbering along as their algorithms error on the side of caution.  Being surrounded by autonomous vehicles may be like driving around a pack of little old ladies.

I don't think there is anyway we are not having autonomous trucks in our future -- the Teamsters will only be able to slow it down at best.

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Re: U.S. House unanimously approves sweeping self-driving car measure
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2017, 04:45:25 PM »
>teamsters
>future

You underestimate our senate and their pandering. But, in the perhaps very long term, I agree that we'll have autonomous big rigs. Chaperoned at first.

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Re: U.S. House unanimously approves sweeping self-driving car measure
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2017, 05:00:00 PM »
>Chaperoned at first

I agree that this is likely. 

Can you imagine that though?  The guy sits there and does nothing all day and collect a paycheck.  Eventually it will be easier for everyone if they just stayed home and received a their chunk of the UBI.

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Re: U.S. House unanimously approves sweeping self-driving car measure
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2017, 06:34:30 PM »
>Chaperoned at first

October 2016 - Semi completes first self-driving commercial shipment through Fort Collins-Colorado Springs beer run.

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/10/25/self-driving-beer-truck-colorado/


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Re: U.S. House unanimously approves sweeping self-driving car measure
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2017, 07:46:48 PM »
July 2017 (just in time to stop the next beer run)

Teamsters convince Congress to block driverless trucks

https://thenextweb.com/artificial-intelligence/2017/07/31/teamsters-convince-congress-to-block-driverless-trucks/

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The union has opposed other policy pushes, such as states wanting to allow companies to use what is known as platooning technology. This would digitally connect a group of trucks so they drive in a gas-saving formation. It is seen as a precursor to autonomous trucks, and Arkansas, Tennessee and South Carolina are among the states considering such a move.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/11/business/dealbook/teamsters-union-tries-to-slow-self-driving-truck-push.html?mcubz=3
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Re: U.S. House unanimously approves sweeping self-driving car measure
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2018, 01:17:28 AM »
Embarkís self-driving semi completes trip from California to Florida

https://www.engadget.com/2018/02/06/embark-self-driving-semi-drove-california-florida/

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Re: U.S. House unanimously approves sweeping self-driving car measure
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2018, 03:45:50 PM »
I've often wondered why trains can't be self-driving.

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Re: U.S. House unanimously approves sweeping self-driving car measure
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2018, 04:07:25 PM »
> trains can't be self-driving

Our railroad unions are among the most powerful. I guess it's a vestige of railroad's golden era.  I do know that railroad pensions & retirement plans still powerful enough that they ask about it separately when you apply for Social Security.

That said, we've had 4 or 5 major incidents in the last 2 months and a lot of the investigations seem to be pointing to massively degraded infrastructure --degraded even by old standards, not even considering tech enhancements that coud have been made.

Maybe I'm missing something, but by comparison to where we are with lidar, drones, autonomous devices, etc., it seems that guiding a train down a predefined pathway while having (historically bestowed) top right-of-way permissions should be a piece of cake.