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Why We Are Here => Economics & Investing => Topic started by: rcjordan on May 08, 2018, 03:42:12 PM

Title: UK: Single-use plastics ban
Post by: rcjordan on May 08, 2018, 03:42:12 PM
So, Elizabeth doesn't like plastic straws or wet-wipes. I agree.  BUT methinks this mandate is going to have deep repercussions and investment opportunities as new-old-tech comes back into play.

EX: Disposable hot drink lids.  Ever seen a molded paper replacement? Neither have I. ...And we use billions of them in very short order.
Title: Re: UK: Single-use plastics ban
Post by: ergophobe on May 08, 2018, 04:04:10 PM
A friend who is working on a Zero Waste plan just returned from a conference where they informed him that those compostable plastics don't actually compost, in most cases... so you can throw that problem into the mix.
Title: Re: UK: Single-use plastics ban
Post by: rcjordan on May 08, 2018, 04:26:02 PM
Plastic eating utensils   ....remember those crappy, tiny wooden spoons you used to get with a cup of ice cream?

Wood and paper products should boom.  We may be trading one environmental disaster for another,. We'll see. 

Title: Re: UK: Single-use plastics ban
Post by: buckworks on May 08, 2018, 04:34:25 PM
Carry your own spork. A titanium spork that will last longer than you will can be had for a few bucks.

That said, I haven't studied the footprint of producing titanium stuff.

>> Wood and paper products should boom.  We may be trading one environmental disaster for another,. We'll see. 

Yep.
Title: Re: UK: Single-use plastics ban
Post by: Brad on May 08, 2018, 05:54:40 PM
I remember:

>>drink lids

I remember cardboard ones but they may have been cold drinks only.

>>spork

Prediction.

TSA will ban them.  Ditto places like court houses.  Cops will gun you down if you have a spork in hand.  And heaven help you if you have one of those Swiss Army camping knives with a fold out fork and spoon in your car.
Title: Re: UK: Single-use plastics ban
Post by: Brad on May 08, 2018, 05:55:40 PM
Oh and paper straws were worthless.
Title: Re: UK: Single-use plastics ban
Post by: rcjordan on May 08, 2018, 08:17:30 PM
> paper straws were worthless

Look at how the drink industry has changed since paper straws were de rigueur. They could barely handle a 6 oz Coke.  Paper straws will kill the smoothie industry, for example.
Title: Re: UK: Single-use plastics ban
Post by: Brad on May 08, 2018, 11:05:44 PM
Yeah, milkshakes, malts anything thick.

The industry will find away around it: cardboard straws impregnated with cellulose resin.  Or we all start bringing our own stainless steel straws and the restaurant provides a free straw sanitizer.  Something.
Title: Re: UK: Single-use plastics ban
Post by: Rupert on May 18, 2018, 08:43:37 AM
Final Straw: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BslNm9Yo5s
Title: Re: UK: Single-use plastics ban
Post by: Brad on May 18, 2018, 10:13:21 AM
>Final Straw

Pretty cool.  But my first thought was, "Och, another thing I have to carry around!"  Seriously, I had to go through security at a court house recently and the amount of stuff I had to leave in the car was amazing.
Title: Re: UK: Single-use plastics ban
Post by: Rupert on May 18, 2018, 02:58:59 PM
yes, mine too.  I have not bought one. And I need a straw for cold drinks at the mo... bad teeth.
Title: Re: UK: Single-use plastics ban
Post by: grnidone on June 01, 2018, 07:46:10 PM
So these don't compost down?
https://www.ecoproducts.com/ecolid_renewable_hot_cup_lids.html
Title: Re: UK: Single-use plastics ban
Post by: rcjordan on June 09, 2018, 08:25:25 PM
Judge backs NYC in ban on plastic foam food containers

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article212878979.html