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Re: Alexa Always Listening Patent
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2018, 02:57:27 PM »
It's not surveilling you. 

"Amazon has denied that it uses voice recordings for advertising at the moment, and said that the patent might never actually come to the market."

They're just applying for the patent so that they don't have to pay someone else for it down the road should they ever roll out anything like this.

Your reaction is probably shared by 99.9999% of most people. Most people including myself would never admit such a thing into our homes. The creepiness factor will prevent Amazon from ever coming out with that feature.

It's only listening for trigger words at this time. Trigger words are words that will activate it. Android has it too. There's a lot of research on trigger words, on finding the voice signal out of a cacophony, on accuracy and so on.

Listening for trigger words is not a big deal.  What's in the patent is too invasive and will never go to market. That patent is like defensive domain buying.

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Re: Alexa Always Listening Patent
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2018, 04:12:30 PM »
>>will never go to market

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Re: Alexa Always Listening Patent
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2018, 11:28:18 AM »
>> It's not surveilling you. 

And we know that how? ;-)

>> Listening for trigger words is not a big deal.

It is me, I choose not to have such devices and don't use Siri etc.

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Re: Alexa Always Listening Patent
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2018, 02:11:04 PM »
>>> I choose not to have such devices...

Unless you have an old device with an older OS, it's already in your pocket.

Android is always listening. Apple is always listening. Even some television sets are listening.

I'm sure there will be some folks who drop out and join the digital Amish stuck behind the HMTL plow, the ones that never adopted WordPress, Drupal, Joomla and other CMS. But they will be in the minority and face increasing irrelevance.

The technology for understanding spoken words and for being able to isolate one human's voice is literally improving every day.  This is the state of technology today and it's not going away.

Voice search via IoT and mobile search is incredibly important and still growing. It'll evolve but it's not going away.

You can jump off the train at the next station. But SEO and Internet Marketing as it is practiced today are on the train with the rest of the world.
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Re: Alexa Always Listening Patent
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2018, 11:20:29 PM »
The technology for understanding spoken words and for being able to isolate one human's voice is literally improving every day.

There are times these days when the only way I can understand a phone message is to read the Google Voice transcript, because I cannot understand the message by ear. I'm still better than GV in general because I have so much better context, but voice recognition is nothing like what it was 5 years ago.

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Re: Alexa Always Listening Patent
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2019, 01:11:57 AM »
Time warp:

"The Alexa voice review process, described by seven people who have worked on the program, highlights the often-overlooked human role in training software algorithms. In marketing materials Amazon says Alexa “lives in the cloud and is always getting smarter.” But like many software tools built to learn from experience, humans are doing some of the teaching. The team comprises a mix of contractors and full-time Amazon employees who work in outposts from Boston to Costa Rica, India and Romania, according to the people, who signed nondisclosure agreements barring them from speaking publicly about the program. They work nine hours a day, with each reviewer parsing as many as 1,000 audio clips per shift, according to two workers based at Amazon’s Bucharest office, which takes up the top three floors of the Globalworth building in the Romanian capital’s up-and-coming Pipera district. The modern facility stands out amid the crumbling infrastructure and bears no exterior sign advertising Amazon’s presence."

"The teams use internal chat rooms to share files when they need help parsing a muddled word—or come across an amusing recording."

"Sometimes they hear recordings they find upsetting, or possibly criminal."

"In homes around the world, Echo owners frequently speculate about who might be listening, according to two of the reviewers. “Do you work for the NSA?” they ask. “Alexa, is someone else listening to us?”

https://www.bloombergquint.com/technology/is-anyone-listening-to-you-on-alexa-a-global-team-reviews-audio

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Re: Alexa Always Listening Patent
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2019, 01:22:59 AM »
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Re: Alexa Always Listening Patent
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2019, 01:36:35 AM »
Seriously, I'd eventually like to take voice control local-only. Something like this:

Voice controlled lights with a Raspberry Pi and Snips
https://medium.com/snips-ai/voice-controlled-lights-with-a-raspberry-pi-and-snips-822e53d7ede6

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I've already moved repeat reminders to Hubitat.

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Re: Alexa Always Listening Patent
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2019, 02:15:25 AM »
>eventually

That's the only way I'd ever do it.

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Re: Alexa Always Listening Patent
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2019, 02:43:49 AM »
Last September, Amz announced that the Echo Plus would have local voice control so that the smarthome would continue to function when the internet connection went down. I've not seen anything more from Amz on that.  If it ever does come out, one down-n-dirty option would be to set it up, then kill the internet, forcing it to local-only. Sort of like I've done with the G Home.

But I see local VC popping up on github, etc. Debbie says Hubitat or others will provide a desktop device that will do simple tasks, perhaps soon.  That'd be enough for my house.  If I could take lighting controls off Alexa today, 99.9% of the remaining use would be timers and one-off reminders.