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Re: Apple iPhone, Amazon Echo production moving from China to India
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2019, 06:37:22 PM »
Sigh.  I guess the working class in India could thank Trump. 

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Re: Apple iPhone, Amazon Echo production moving from China to India
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2019, 07:55:36 PM »
Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia and India are the places US manufacturers are switching to due to the trade war with China.

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Re: Apple iPhone, Amazon Echo production moving from China to India
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2019, 08:26:51 PM »
I posted here the other day about VN being the go-to place for many ex-China manufacturers.

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Re: Apple iPhone, Amazon Echo production moving from China to India
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2019, 10:18:43 AM »
I posted here the other day about VN being the go-to place for many ex-China manufacturers.

That's where I read that!  I couldn't remember.

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Re: Apple iPhone, Amazon Echo production moving from China to India
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2019, 10:23:43 AM »
Chasing low labor rates may be a fool’s errand in the long run, as labor rates will presumably rise everywhere as the global economy develops. But Vietnam is still one of those places “where lots of people are still scrambling for entry-level work,”

https://www.ajot.com/premium/ajot-manufacturing-in-vietnam-capacity-shifts-tariff-avoidance-tariff-evasion

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Re: Apple iPhone, Amazon Echo production moving from China to India
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2019, 01:30:08 PM »
The move away from China is probably for the best.  Too many US companies were totally dependent on China, plus it gives places like Vietnam and India a chance to develop their economies.

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Re: Apple iPhone, Amazon Echo production moving from China to India
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2019, 01:35:32 PM »
>move away from China is probably for the best.

I agree. But, in the end, the result is going to be more robotics to sate our addiction to cheap labor.  You just can't count on humans -or countries, for that matter, over the long haul.

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Re: Apple iPhone, Amazon Echo production moving from China to India
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2019, 02:15:46 PM »
>>> Robots

"Mr. Ford lucidly sets out myriad examples of how focused applications of versatile machines (coupled with human helpers where necessary) could displace or de-skill many jobs.... His answer to a sharp decline in employment is a guaranteed basic income, a safety net that he suggests would both cushion the effect on the newly unemployable and encourage entrepreneurship among those creative enough to make a new way for themselves. This is a drastic prescription for the ills of modern industrialization--ills whose severity and very existence are hotly contested. Rise of the Robots provides a compelling case that they are real."―Wall Street Journal
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Re: Apple iPhone, Amazon Echo production moving from China to India
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2019, 05:20:17 PM »
I think for  a while people have been saying that the future is for more manufacturing to return to the US, but to bring no jobs with it. Or rather, a steel mill will come back and employ 6 people instead of 6000.

Once you solve the labor "problem," it makes more sense to produce things closer to the raw materials and the US still does pretty well for raw materials. And that logic, by the way, also bodes well for China and parts of Africa and South America. Not so well for Western Europe AFAIK. But again, this has little to do with jobs.
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Re: Apple iPhone, Amazon Echo production moving from China to India
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2019, 06:54:52 PM »
So at some point, smartphone manufacturers might start offering ugly but functional phones built by robots (think FreePhone) and fashion statement phones built by people that cost more but look so cool and slick in your hand that you put it in an ugly OtterBox to protect it.  Then eventually, we will figure out how to build better robots that can build fancier phones and displace the humans.

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Re: Apple iPhone, Amazon Echo production moving from China to India
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2019, 07:30:51 PM »
Even the pretty, $1000 ones will be robot-crafted.

Foxconn to invest $4 billion in new robotics and automation technology
https://roboticsandautomationnews.com/2018/02/24/foxconn-to-invest-4-billion-in-new-robotics-and-automation-technology/16182/

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According to the report in DigiTimes, general manager of Foxconn, Dai Jia-peng, of the company’s Automation Technology Development Committee, the three stage process will be as follows:

In the first phase, Foxconn aims to set up individual automated work stations for work that workers are unwilling to do or is dangerous, Dai said.

Entire production lines will be automated to decrease the number of robots used during the second phase, Dai noted.

In the third phase, entire factories will be automated with only a minimal number of workers assigned for production, logistics, testing and inspection processes, Dai indicated.

Some of Foxconn’s factories have already been brought into the second phase, and there are 10 “fully automated” production lines at some of the factories.