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Re: Blink security cam says they've shipped
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2016, 06:11:38 PM »
> what's the difference, if any, between an LED lightbulb with wi-fi and a networked printer with wi-fi?

Nothing IMO.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/jul/23/hacking-attack-printers

http://www.contextis.com/resources/blog/hacking-internet-connected-light-bulbs/

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Re: Blink security cam says they've shipped
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2016, 10:07:11 PM »
Ok, so If I understand this right, is this Gateway safe? 

http://wirelesstag.net/

I somehow suspect not.
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Re: Blink security cam says they've shipped
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2016, 10:12:04 PM »
I doubt it, but I doubt any site is 100% secure. I have given it a check however I have only given it a once over, scanning for open and known obvious vulnerabilities.

However, IMO any site that is live online may have vulnerabilities we don't yet know about. For me that isn't the issue. I accept that almost all web apps will likely have them. How quickly and expeditiously they are fixed is more important in practice than having a technically perfect site; as something that passes that check today, could be f***ed tomorrow.

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Re: Blink security cam says they've shipped
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2016, 09:38:08 AM »
Bill.... if all these connected devices are so dangerous, what's the difference, if any, between an LED lightbulb with wi-fi and a networked printer with wi-fi?

I ask because unlike the bulb, I can't isolate my printer and have it be worthwhile and in many cases I don't want it close enough to the router to connect via wire

(BTW, my printer is connected via USB but the truth is that I had it running with wifi then it quit and I could never get it working again).

They're dangerous because the manufacturers really haven't considered security. It's the IoT devices that are of concern as they're accessible by anyone on the Internet. Then somebody goes to Shodan, looks up the exploit, finds your devices, and takes advantage.

Generally a wireless printer will not have public IP. It will have an IP from your NAT router that won't be accessible on the web. As long as you aren't port forwarding anything to that printer you can consider it just another part of your local network. If you've got a printer that's open to the net, then putting it on another network wouldn't be a bad idea.

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Re: Blink security cam says they've shipped
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2016, 01:51:06 PM »
I see this sort of thing daily...
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Flaws in Trane thermostats underscore IoT security risks, Cisco says
"While IoT devices such as smart thermostats, home lighting, and security systems bring an added level of convenience into our lives, these vulnerabilities highlight the dangers of insecure development practices," he wrote.

Cisco found three vulnerabilities which could be used to gain remote control of the thermostat, run rogue code and gain access to the local network.

Trane was notified in April 2014. It patched two of the vulnerabilities in April 2015 and the final one on Jan. 27, Chiu said.

"We are unable to determine if Trane has associated these vulnerabilities with security advisories or if they have effectively communicated the necessity of installing these updates to their customers," he wrote. "As a result, Talos recommends that users who own these thermostats to update immediately."

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Re: Blink security cam says they've shipped
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2016, 05:23:30 PM »
Right... the printer would never have port forwarding set up.

I think I'm fairly protected by my crappy satellite internet - I've tried to set up a device with port forwarding so it could be accessed from outside the local network and never could. Eventually I found many posts on their forum confirming that it could not be set up and accessed over satellite internet.

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Re: Blink security cam says they've shipped
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2016, 08:54:25 PM »
Set up the Blink cameras today. Had to briefly re-enable router SSID broadcast, but after that it was pretty straightforward. So far, so good. I placed two outside under covered porches. This will require a long term review on outdoor use and battery longevity, but so far I like the system.

Edit: Headed to Amazon to get a UPS and additional router for security sake.

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Re: Blink security cam says they've shipped
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2016, 08:55:38 PM »
Excellent.

I can't wait for mine to arrive. Unfortunately for me, they were sending all the US orders out before the rest of the world.

I have an ETA of March / April.

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Re: Blink security cam says they've shipped
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2016, 04:31:05 AM »
Update: While recording, the cameras display a blue LED light. In the dark they shine bright, visible while LED light. Not sure if better or worse than IR illumination.

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Re: Blink security cam says they've shipped
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2016, 10:01:04 AM »
not secret then?
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Re: Blink security cam says they've shipped
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2016, 05:48:06 PM »
Installed mine. Had a minor problem with the wi-fi hand-off from the control phone to the module but it was due to misinterpretation of written instructions --problem located between the keyboard and the seat.  (Stay on the app to connect to your wifi.)  

I like it.

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Re: Blink security cam says they've shipped
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2016, 05:12:47 PM »
>light

I'm skimming amazon reviews on blink cam to turn up any setup gems.  Ran across this right away
- The camera has a privacy light so you know when someone is watching
- The image is pretty ok in low light, but the camera also has a pretty bright light on it that can be optionally turned on.

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Re: Blink security cam says they've shipped
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2016, 05:26:28 PM »
<more from amz>

Max storage is about 2hrs of video clips (in the cloud), so you want to be diligent about turning the motion detection feature off when you don't need it (e.g., once you get home) and/or regularly delete old clips to free up space.

Don't buy this camera if you don't have an US iOS App Store account. You won't be able to install the app and use the camera until you create a new account or until they release a new camera version for international orders in March.

 It is often slow to arm the cameras, especially if I'm away from the home wifi. Sometimes the arming fails. Also, the 10-second video is too short to get a good idea of what's happening--30 seconds would be better.

Features I'd like to see:
- More polish on the app.
- Schedule for automatic arm/disarm.
- Web interface for accessing the system.
- Additional alert options for when motion is detected (e.g. an email with video attached).
- Option to easily turn on/off light during live view.

LOTS of calls for an outdoor cam in the reviews, Trav.


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Re: Blink security cam says they've shipped
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2016, 08:12:55 PM »
They're already talking about an "auto-arming" feature if you use location services.  Basically, it arms when your phone leaves the house.
We'd be pretty trusting to use a security system app that tracks how far we are from home.

Edit: grammar.

« Last Edit: February 19, 2016, 11:39:19 PM by Travoli »

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Re: Blink security cam says they've shipped
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2016, 08:35:45 PM »
"Coming Soon: Auto arm/disarm function"  on the features page.  Simple schedule or location. Simple schedule would work for me.