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Do we really need an iPhone 11
« on: September 10, 2019, 10:56:34 AM »
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Re: Do we really need an iPhone 11
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2019, 12:54:45 PM »
I think the phone OEM's are, partly trying to kill off the everything but the Pro level cameras with the high end phones.  It's not their main goal but the erosion is noticeable.

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Re: Do we really need an iPhone 11
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2019, 01:13:44 PM »
C'mon Big Tech, I'm tired of hearing about phones. They are a commodity item that reeks of early-21st-century.  Where's my robot puppy servant?

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Re: Do we really need an iPhone 11
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2019, 02:03:20 PM »
>robot

Forget self driving cars too.  A robot that will fetch me a beer trumps self driving cars any day.

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Re: Do we really need an iPhone 11
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2019, 03:09:22 PM »
I think the phone OEM's are, partly trying to kill off the everything but the Pro level cameras with the high end phones.  It's not their main goal but the erosion is noticeable.

A friend was on a photoshoot for Nikon and they ban all phones from the photoshoot. She pulled out her iPhone and people freaked out. Nikon has seen the point-and-shoot end of the camera market go "poof!"

The thing is, go back to before digital cameras, and Nikon didn't really have a strong point-and-shoot presence. The problem is that even the consumer-level SLR market has eroded and that hurts the camera companies too. Still, I'd like to see sales. I have the feeling that there is just a lot more interest in photography now too and digicams are still on a steep upgrade path compared to film (though not nearly as steep as it was, obviously).

One of the big problems is that I know some serious pros - award-winning, large format photographers - who are dumping Canon and Nikon for Sony.

>>iPhone 11.

Yes, we need it. I think it will bring the cost of an iPhone 6 on the used market under $100, and really, I don't need anything past an iPhone 6 for anything I can imagine unless I want to use it to power my hacked self-driving car (as my nephew is doing... but I don't know which iPhone).

>>robot

Well, as I started saying back in 2000 - I want my spaceship. As a kid, I was promised one. Arthur C Clarke said that traveling at Mach 22 would be a common travel experience in 2019 and expected he would be living at the not uncommon age of about 100 while living in a colony on the moon (he wrote a book in 1983 on the state of the world on the 50th anniversary of the moon landing). Countless TV shows promised that space travel would be common by now. Even the relatively pessimistic 2001: A Space Odyssey, had regular passenger service to the moon by 2001.

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Re: Do we really need an iPhone 11
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2019, 11:10:57 PM »
>I want my spaceship

this was in 1989...

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Re: Do we really need an iPhone 11
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2019, 11:33:12 PM »
>>We still have weather

At least we're doing something to change that though.

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Re: Do we really need an iPhone 11
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2019, 04:05:13 AM »
Been hiking Colorado Rockies and National Parks out west for ~2 weeks. After hauling a DSLR to the bottom of the Grand Canyon (and back up), I decided to travel with the phone camera this trip. It makes the hikes more enjoyable and the photos are good enough for online sharing, but I wouldn't want to print and hang them. The iPhone 11 ultra wide lens has my attention.

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Re: Do we really need an iPhone 11
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2019, 04:17:48 PM »
Yup, I only take the SLR now if I think the flowers will be good and I want a good macro lens.

At one point, a friend counseled that when trying to decide between two cameras, if it's a close decision, always choose the smaller, lighter one.

>> National Parks out west

If you make it as far west as Yosemite, let us know.

>> iPhone 11 ultra wide lens

The problem with ultra wide for landscape is that it flattens all the vertical relief. So if you are standing in front of a mountain that towers above a meadow, when you shoot it with the ultra-wide, it looks like this tiny bump way off in the distance. I find it incredibly frustrating for most landscape photography. So the phone camera is strictly for grabbing snapshots with people as a momento that we were there (and it looked nothing like this).

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Re: Do we really need an iPhone 11
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2019, 04:08:07 PM »
>Yosemite

Planning to visit again soon and will absolutely PM you

>(and it looked nothing like this)

So very true

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Re: Do we really need an iPhone 11
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2019, 09:56:25 PM »
Please do. Assuming it works out with free time, we can perhaps find you an outing that might be a bit off the beaten path.