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Interesting talk by Amory Lovins (sp?) and he was talking about two photographs of the NY City Easter Parade. Rough idea here, not sure of the exact dates, but one was from 1903 and the other was from 1916.

In the first one, if you look closely, it looks like there is something way back in the photo that might be a car. If you look at the second one, you can see way back in the photo a horse. So basically he said "Thirteen years from first car to last horse."

Not quite of course, because we have horses in parades today, but you get the point. He was trying to say that when a technology hits the point where it is affordable, things move very fast. He had some other stat about how car ownership went from almost nothing to something like 70% of households in 15 years because Ford dropped real costs by 2/3.

Even more interesting when you couple this with the fact that urban people are increasingly opting out. Did you post that link that 9% of people who sold a car this year said they were not replacing it and were switching to ride sharing and car sharing?

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>9% of people who sold a car this year said they were not replacing it

Oof. Combine this with already declining sales... there will be an auto industry bloodbath. Will Google, Apple or Uber be the first to purchase a manufacturer?

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>> >9% of people who sold a car this year said they were not replacing it

Wonder what the figure has always been. Could be a non fact :-)

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The average car on the road is 11 years old, the highest figure ever recorded. The results of a new survey indicate that this average will only increase down the line—and chances are, these old cars will be driven by a single owner for most, if not all of their lifespans.


http://business.time.com/2012/07/27/driver-consensus-its-silly-to-upgrade-cars-every-couple-of-years/
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My car is 18 years old.
It's a little Renault Clio - http://starmoz.com/images/renault-clio-1999-19.jpg
It's automatic and had 58,000 miles on the clock when I bought it 2 years ago.
Cost me the bargain price of just £300, and I plan on running it into the ground.
Can't see the point of getting a flashy car, only to pay flashy running costs - Must be my age.... oh dear :o
Saying that tho, I do have a motorbike to get my fixes ;)
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>9%

Better make that 12%...

Waze to expand Carpool service across California on June 6

https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/31/waze-to-expand-carpool-service-across-california-on-june-6/

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>> >9% of people who sold a car this year said they were not replacing it

Wonder what the figure has always been. Could be a non fact :-)

Good point. Anyway, must have been in my RSS feed. It came from a Reuters poll. Can't find the original article, but here's one on the topic
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/25/10-percent-of-americans-trading-in-a-car-plan-to-use-uber-and-lyft-instead-of-buying-a-new-one.html

It does appear to be a semi-nonfact (bold is mine)
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The Reuters/Ipsos U.S. poll was conducted online in English April 5-11. It gathered responses from 584 people who said they disposed of their personal vehicle within the last 12 months and 566 people who said they planned to get rid of their personal vehicles in the next 12 months.

The poll has a credibility interval, a measure of accuracy, of 5 percentage points for the people who recently got rid of their vehicle or planned to do so in the future.