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Why We Are Here => Hardware & Technology => Topic started by: Brad on September 18, 2018, 03:16:29 PM

Title: Epic Privacy Browser
Post by: Brad on September 18, 2018, 03:16:29 PM
I played around with Epic last night.  https://www.epicbrowser.com/

While I wouldn't use it for daily work, I like the fact that it has a VPN built in so your ISP can't track you and I would definitely use it over public wifi.
Title: Re: Epic Privacy Browser
Post by: littleman on September 18, 2018, 05:38:36 PM
Looks to be built from Chromium.
Title: Re: Epic Privacy Browser
Post by: aaron on September 18, 2018, 06:24:41 PM
Opera also has a VPN built in, which you can turn on or off with a toggle.
https://www.opera.com/

It was bought out by some Chinese investors a few years ago
https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/18/opera-browser-sold-to-a-chinese-consortium-for-600-million/
had a news app added to the company to show faster growth
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/08/opera_v49_overhaul/
& then was flipped back public on the Nasdaq for about double the buyout valuation
https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/27/browser-maker-opera-successfully-begins-trading-on-nasdaq/

I think a lot of the company's growth (& thus valuation) comes from the news app, but I am highly suspect that will be a sustainable stand alone thing over time.

Part of what did in the Yahoo! home page was the Facebook or Twitter news feeds, but another big thing that continues to hurt them is how many leading browsers recommend stories on new tabs. Microsoft does this, so does Mozilla, the Chrome version on mobile is a massive traffic driver & Apple bought Texture as part of a move to eventually offer a paid news subscription service where they'll do some sort of rev share with publishers for the top end of the market.

I am not sure how Opera will continue to grow the usage of their news app against the deep pocketed online surveillance ad network companies which own the operating system layer or such.

Some of the original team behind Opera launched another browser
https://vivaldi.com/
Title: Re: Epic Privacy Browser
Post by: ergophobe on September 18, 2018, 08:38:37 PM
Looks to be built from Chromium.

Same with Brave.

I doubt there will be a privacy-focussed browser that is not built off Chromium (or possibly the Mozilla codebase)
Title: Re: Epic Privacy Browser
Post by: Brad on September 18, 2018, 09:13:11 PM
I was looking at the list, seems like everyone is opting for Chromium over Gecko. I wonder why?  A few go with Webkit.
Title: Re: Epic Privacy Browser
Post by: aaron on September 18, 2018, 09:50:16 PM
I was looking at the list, seems like everyone is opting for Chromium over Gecko. I wonder why?  A few go with Webkit.
Apple users are more likely to use whatever Apple sets as the default vs switching web browsers to a rival brand, so even if you beat Apple building from Apple's code base (in terms of quality) you probably still are not going to get much share. Plus what if Apple shifts their code base dramatically in a way that only works on their hardware? They did do away with the Safari for Windows browser years ago.

Chrome has the most marketshare on desktop (bundling with Adobe Flash security updates, heavily marketed across Google properties, etc.) & on mobile (via Android). So if you use Chromium as your base you are getting something that should both work cross-platform & be something many web developers have optimized their code against.