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Re: EVs Force Carmakers to Reinvent the Wheel, and Brakes, and Mirrors
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2021, 04:13:32 PM »
Repair market: 

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The biggest challenge is the recruitment of technicians with specific skill sets.”

He continued: “It will be less about ‘Oh, I love to take things apart and put them back together.’ It’ll be more about your understanding of code and computer systems.”
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Re: EVs Force Carmakers to Reinvent the Wheel, and Brakes, and Mirrors
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2021, 04:44:17 PM »
Anecdotally, the number independent auto repair shops seem to have decreased and some now mostly do oil changes, bulb replacement, and brake work. The number of DIY shade-tree mechanics working on their new vehicles is waaaay down, too.   I don't remember it mentioning it is this article, but body shops (and insurance) have already been impacted by Tesla and will be further squeezed by more EV platforms entering the market.

What was buried in yet another article regarding GM's switch to EVs is that they are planning to sell direct -like Tesla, circumventing the existing dealership network.   That's a tectonic shift.

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Re: EVs Force Carmakers to Reinvent the Wheel, and Brakes, and Mirrors
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2021, 04:58:25 PM »
A friend in Norway says thats exactly what is happening NOW over there.

Also lots of oil money in Stavanger, so loads of Teslas, as they get  free tolls and sometimes free parking, so everyone is buying them.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidnikel/2019/06/18/electric-cars-why-little-norway-leads-the-world-in-ev-usage/?sh=d3a9c9713e35
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Re: EVs Force Carmakers to Reinvent the Wheel, and Brakes, and Mirrors
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2021, 05:18:05 PM »
>Norway

Yes, Norway was consistently one of Tesla's best markets.  IIRC, one or more of the Scan countries reduced their huge vehicle excise tax for EVs.  With a good market reach and -now- a couple of years behind them to build a base, I'd bet the secondary merchandise & maintenance market has been significantly impacted there. They are just ahead of the curve.
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Re: EVs Force Carmakers to Reinvent the Wheel, and Brakes, and Mirrors
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2021, 05:23:00 PM »
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>Dealerships

Dealerships have an out-sized lobbying & legislative position in the US -particularly with the state legislatures.  Some states still have outmoded laws that make it illegal to sell vehicles direct. (I believe my state is one of them.)  Tesla has been able to get those laws removed in some states, but dealerships are still a formidable political force.

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Re: EVs Force Carmakers to Reinvent the Wheel, and Brakes, and Mirrors
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2021, 05:30:28 PM »
If they have gone in some states, imho they will eventually go in all, OR the price will be higher.

 I know nothing about the political forces in the US, honestly don't really understand it, although the last couple of months has been informative :) Just I think markets are more powerful.
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Re: EVs Force Carmakers to Reinvent the Wheel, and Brakes, and Mirrors
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2021, 06:17:18 PM »
I know of Teslas here in NC, but they had to buy it out of state.  At first, there were Tesla maintenance centers within the state (urban areas, hours away) but I don't know if that has changed or expanded.  But, to be fair, the closest Mercedes Benz dealership is slightly over an hour away ---and MBs have a helluva required maintenance schedule.

>the US, honestly don't really understand it

That makes two of us.


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Re: EVs Force Carmakers to Reinvent the Wheel, and Brakes, and Mirrors
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2021, 03:39:09 PM »
"Instead of selling cars through franchised dealers, emerging auto manufacturers want to sell electric vehicles direct to consumers, either online or in their own stores.

But that's illegal in more than half the states in America"


Cutting out the middleman on electric car sales - Axios
https://www.axios.com/electric-car-manufacturer-direct-sales-baeabf32-99f8-43be-bb65-1fae6937d8ad.html

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Re: EVs Force Carmakers to Reinvent the Wheel, and Brakes, and Mirrors
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2021, 04:48:21 PM »
>>honestly don't really understand it

I think the rule of thumb, whether talking about conservatives or liberals, companies or individuals, lobbyists or activists: everyone loves the free market until it affects them personally.