Author Topic: First AI incident in my home  (Read 168 times)

rcjordan

  • I'm consulting the authorities on the subject
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7299
  • Debbie says...
    • View Profile
First AI incident in my home
« on: October 30, 2018, 03:40:43 PM »
Crude AI, to be sure, but it's a start.

So, back in April, I believe I posted about installing new smart thermostats on the heat pumps.  One of the heat pumps later developed a refrigerant leak that we put off servicing until better fall weather arrived.  Anyway, this week the thermostat started showing a message "Having to run auxiliary heat when it's 50 degrees F outside."  It took me a minute to realize that this was an advanced warning of a symptom of heat pump failure --a symptom that people would almost always miss.  Blew me away.

Brad

  • Inner Core
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2329
  • What, me worry?
    • View Profile
Re: First AI incident in my home
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2018, 05:35:20 PM »
Nice.

rcjordan

  • I'm consulting the authorities on the subject
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7299
  • Debbie says...
    • View Profile
Re: First AI incident in my home
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2018, 10:02:59 PM »
Two IF statements hardly make for true AI, so it's probably more of what we used to call an 'expert system.'   But it still pretty cool to see it flag a developing problem.

I have trouble visualizing AI, I think of it as 10k if-then statements.

ergophobe

  • Inner Core
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4379
    • View Profile
Re: First AI incident in my home
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2018, 01:49:04 AM »
I have trouble visualizing AI, I think of it as 10k if-then statements.

I think that is one of the problems people often point to with trying to define AI. What is it?

To me, the distinction between AI and just plain software is that AI has behaviors that are not programmed in and can extrapolate from data. So a million if-then statements make a really complex program, but not AI.

Thinking of the Kasparov thread, to me Deep Blue is not really AI, so much as very good programming. Alpha Go is AI-enhanced programming, or maybe highly directed AI. AlphaZero is the stuff of science fiction - AI that should get everyone a bit scared, but which also has the ability to propose solutions that humans wouldn't dream of.

Kasparov said that Deep Blue and other computers using brute force play uninspired chess, but with a much lower error rate than humans. He said AlphaZero is the first machine that actually taught him things about chess strategy. He said it's actually interesting because it does brilliant things that Kasparov has never seen a human do.

Brad

  • Inner Core
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2329
  • What, me worry?
    • View Profile
Re: First AI incident in my home
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2018, 09:32:15 AM »
>10k if-then statements.

This is they way I have always thought of it.

>behaviors that are not programmed in

Good explanation Ergo. That helps.