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BoL

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Re: Need new hosting. Recommendations?
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2019, 09:05:14 PM »
>BoL:   If they were offering the same basic features as cpanel and softalicious I'd be okay with it.

Seems like providers can be terribly slow to adapt, the unmanaged offerings especially - and definitely a gap in the market for the other panels for the point and click situations that people are accustomed to.

cpanel were bought out 12 months ago iirc so the money men have probably decided that it's OK to bleed everyone who can't take an alternate choice, or basically forcing the hosting providers to pass on the cost - across a large chunk of the market.

It's not a hugely sophisticated bit of software either, for anyone who had to deal with mundane processes before this automation. There's 00,000s of hosts  that offer cpanel, some will offer "add on" domains and "parked domains" but with some basic .htaccess you can turn those parked domains into fully hosted sites.

You can also abuse the shared network on shared hosting services. I've bought some cpanel/whm hosting for $10/y and there's 100s of IPs that you can use as outgoing interfaces, often with several different /24 subnets i.e. $0.01 per IP per month. Just sharing as a point of amusement really, seems like with that kind of setup a more virtualized situation would work in the long run for everyone.

Just in case you're interested in the multi IP thing, i'll stick a post in the inner core

Familiarity with cpanel is the thing imo, but there are others out there that offer comparable functionality. Personally I find most panels to be a fudge just makes things more complicated but each to their own.
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Re: Need new hosting. Recommendations?
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2019, 10:50:26 PM »
Personally I find most panels to be a fudge just makes things more complicated but each to their own.

This is the thing I like about Virtualmin - it's more like a wizard that runs standard campaigns using a really nice GUI. CPanel just takes over the OS and is hard to get rid of, like a virus. For a long time you couldn't run CPanel and git on the same machine (they finally fixed that). Virtualmin helps with setup, but it does very little to change the guts of the system

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Re: Need new hosting. Recommendations?
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2019, 11:03:07 PM »
I think my main bone of contention is that you can take a panel which can be more convenient than manual short-term, but it 'takes over' the configuration as you say with cpanel, sometimes the panels and their writing/expectation of layout of config files can lead to self-created problems. Basically they're an abstraction that creates their own problems.

Wouldn't argue against using a panel, just a preference.

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Re: Need new hosting. Recommendations?
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2019, 11:03:43 PM »
FYI I had been waffling between KnownHost and SiteGround, but life got in the way and I didn't actually make the choice. Today, yes today, I was about to choose SG when I saw these latest posts.

So I changed my mind and have chosen KnownHost.

Thanks, everyone!