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Why We Are Here => Hardware & Technology => Topic started by: ukgimp on November 23, 2017, 02:46:28 AM

Title: Net Neutrality
Post by: ukgimp on November 23, 2017, 02:46:28 AM: What's the big issue OR how the hell is it happening?
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: littleman on November 23, 2017, 05:14:40 AM: https://www.battleforthenet.com/
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: ukgimp on November 23, 2017, 09:54:57 AM: How do you crazy Americans get yourself into these situations:-)

Watched part of the Oliver video, Christ he goes on making jokes without saying anything.

I thought it was just a cost thing, but it's more of an extortion thing.

However, these sh## ISPs (we have them too) might regret it it? Eg something gets sidestepped when it's crap and something better gets created, ousting the shite.
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: Mackin USA on November 23, 2017, 12:23:23 PM: TY 4 https://www.battleforthenet.com/ LM
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: littleman on November 23, 2017, 07:07:15 PM: >How do you crazy Americans get yourself into these situations:-)

tribalism in voting, gerrymandering, lack of campaign finance reform, and many other issues we seem unable to address
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on November 23, 2017, 08:29:57 PM: >these situations

Damn lobbyists
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: littleman on November 23, 2017, 11:48:17 PM: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20171122/09473038669/fcc-releases-net-neutrality-killing-order-hopes-youre-too-busy-cooking-turkey-to-read-it.shtml
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on February 17, 2018, 12:24:29 AM: To kill net neutrality, FCC might have to fight more than half of US states
^{Bucking FCC and Ajit Pai, lawmakers across US have proposed net neutrality laws.}

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/02/to-kill-net-neutrality-fcc-might-have-to-fight-more-than-half-of-us-states/

TL:DR; Of those I've read, the states are simply adding a clause in their contracts with ISPs that net neutrality must be honored everywhere within the state or the ISP cannot do business with the state gov.
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on February 23, 2018, 04:00:44 PM: State attorneys general renew bid to save net neutrality

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A coalition of 22 state attorneys general and the District of Columbia on Thursday refiled legal challenges intended to block the Trump administration’s repeal of landmark rules designed to ensure a free and open internet from taking effect.

https://nypost.com/2018/02/23/state-attorneys-general-renew-bid-to-save-net-neutrality/
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on February 25, 2018, 01:18:22 PM: Say goodnight to net neutrality as AT&T just rolled out 'internet fast lanes'

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/23/1744321/-Say-goodnight-to-net-neutrality-as-AT-T-just-rolled-out-internet-fast-lanes
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on March 27, 2018, 05:34:38 PM: AT&T/Verizon lobbyists to “aggressively” sue states that enact net neutrality

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/03/attverizon-lobbyists-to-aggressively-sue-states-that-enact-net-neutrality/
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on July 06, 2018, 12:51:41 AM: Net neutrality makes comeback in California; lawmakers agree to strict rules

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/07/net-neutrality-makes-comeback-in-california-lawmakers-agree-to-strict-rules/

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EFF

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/07/californias-net-neutrality-bill-strong-again-because-you-spoke-out
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on August 02, 2018, 01:33:15 AM: Spectrum allegedly throttled content providers Netflix and Riot Games for money. So much for that Net Neutrality rollback

https://www.techspot.com/news/75754-spectrum-allegedly-throttled-content-providers-netflix-riot-games.html
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on August 31, 2018, 12:42:54 AM: Golden State passes gold-standard net neutrality bill by 58-17 ^{• The Register}

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/08/31/california_net_neutrality/

Now goes back to Cali senate for reconciliation.
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: littleman on August 31, 2018, 02:06:07 AM: If it gets blocked in the state senate I bet it ends up on a ballot. We have 12% of the US population, so this would be a significant win for net neutrality.

Also, it didn't help that Verizon throttled firefighters' data.
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on August 31, 2018, 02:24:51 AM: >Verizon throttled firefighters' data.

Veriscum caught hell for that, hhh. I think it well serve to put this through the senate.
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on November 05, 2018, 07:25:57 PM: U.S. Supreme Court ends fight over Obama-era net neutrality rules | Reuters

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-netneutrality/us-supreme-court-ends-fight-over-obama-era-net-neutrality-rules-idUSKCN1NA1UW

Calif put theirs on hold while working through the lawsuits. This ought to give them better ammunition.
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: littleman on January 24, 2019, 10:41:50 PM: It's Now Clear None of the Supposed Benefits of Killing Net Neutrality Are Real
Network investment is down, layoffs abound, and networks are falling apart. This isn’t the glorious future Ajit Pai promised. (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/gyab5m/its-now-clear-none-of-the-supposed-benefits-of-killing-net-neutrality-are-real)
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on January 31, 2019, 10:22:42 PM: Fight for Net Neutrality back in court tomorrow - TechSpot
https://www.techspot.com/news/78526-fight-net-neutrality-back-court-tomorrow.html
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: littleman on January 31, 2019, 10:33:15 PM: Good.

Like 83% of Americans want NN. I don't think we'll get it back until sometime after the 2020 election.
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on February 06, 2019, 12:57:27 AM: FCC, Ajit Pai, Told It's 'Oversight Time,' By House Democrats
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/fcc-house-democrats-oversight-letter/
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on March 21, 2019, 07:32:12 PM: U.S. House to vote to reinstate net neutrality rules in April | Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-internet/u-s-house-to-vote-to-reinstate-net-neutrality-rules-in-april-idUSKCN1R2268
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on March 22, 2019, 05:48:41 PM: FCC Admits in Court That It Can't Track Who Submits Fake Comments
https://gizmodo.com/fcc-admits-in-court-that-it-cant-track-who-submits-fake-1833415042

FCC to Cough Up $43,000 Settlement for Refusing to Turn Over Fake Comment Records
https://gizmodo.com/fcc-to-cough-up-43-000-settlement-for-refusing-to-turn-1833477114
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: littleman on March 22, 2019, 06:19:23 PM: Government institutions being an arms of corporate interests is one of the biggest dangers in American politics. Ajit Pai in the FCC is almost as bad as the Accuweather ceo (Barry Lee Myers) running the National Weather Service.
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on October 01, 2019, 09:36:48 PM: Court says FCC’s ‘unhinged’ net neutrality repeal can’t stop state laws

https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/01/court-says-fccs-unhinged-net-neutrality-repeal-cant-stop-state-laws/
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on January 22, 2021, 07:48:19 PM: ^{we're baaaack!}

New Acting FCC Chief Jessica Rosenworcel Supports Restoring Net Neutrality
https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7mxja/new-acting-fcc-chief-jessica-rosenworcel-supports-restoring-net-neutrality
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on May 06, 2021, 07:55:00 PM: 80% of the 22 million comments on net neutrality rollback were fake, investigation finds | TechCrunch

https://techcrunch.com/2021/05/06/80-of-the-22-million-comments-on-net-neutrality-rollback-were-fake-investigation-finds/
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: littleman on May 06, 2021, 09:19:48 PM: dirty dirty...
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In all, six lead generators funded by the broadband industry engaged in fraud. As a result, nearly every comment and message the broadband industry submitted to the FCC and Congress was fake, signed using the names and addresses of millions of individuals without their knowledge or consent.

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The wholesale undermining of the processes of government earned fines of $3.7M, $550K, and $150K for Fluent Inc, React2Media, and Opt-Intelligence respectively. There are also “comprehensive reforms” imposed on them, though it may be best not to expect much from those.
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on May 06, 2021, 11:45:51 PM: The largest vender, Fluent, generates leads by advertising gift card giveaways and other sweepstakes. Fluent took the time to spin up websites it could show its client, the lobbying firm, that it was generating leads from the advocacy method. But it was actually just using names it had gotten by advertising sexual enhancement supplements and other upstanding chances to win.

"Contrary to its representations to BFA’s lobbying firm, Fluent never ran any comment solicitations on its websites, and, accordingly, never obtained anyone’s consent to submit comments to the FCC," the report says. "Instead, Fluent copied information consumers had provided when registering on one of Fluent’s websites — in some cases, months or years earlier — and passed it off as personal information entered into the comment solicitation by individuals who had agreed to participate in the campaign to repeal net neutrality rules."

How shady companies got names for fake anti-net neutrality comments
https://mashable.com/article/net-neutrality-fake-comments-isps-fraud/
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: DrCool on May 07, 2021, 05:01:40 PM: >Fluent

We talked to them a couple times about doing some work for my day job but never had a good feeling about them. In my experience if a website can't easily and clearly explain how they would drive traffic and sales for us in one or two sentences there is something shady going on.
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on May 08, 2021, 04:53:45 PM: "Home-Internet prices rose four times faster than inflation in Trump era."

Ajit Pai promised cheaper Internet—real prices rose 19 percent instead | Ars Technica

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/05/ajit-pai-promised-cheaper-internet-real-prices-rose-19-percent-instead/
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on April 21, 2022, 09:01:12 PM: <warp>

California Net Neutrality Law To Remain Intact After Appeals Court Says It Won't Reconsider Earlier Decision - Slashdot
https://mobile.slashdot.org/story/22/04/21/208251/california-net-neutrality-law-to-remain-intact-after-appeals-court-says-it-wont-reconsider-earlier-decision
Title: Re: Net Neutrality
Post by: rcjordan on May 06, 2022, 09:19:17 PM: Stung by 3 court losses, ISPs stop fighting California net neutrality law | Ars Technica
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/05/stung-by-3-court-losses-isps-stop-fighting-california-net-neutrality-law/