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Why We Are Here => Hardware & Technology => Topic started by: rcjordan on September 27, 2022, 02:55:45 AM

Title: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on September 27, 2022, 02:55:45 AM
https://old.reddit.com/r/oddlyterrifying/comments/xozgwf/robotic_apple_harvester_in_action/
Title: Re: Robotic apple harvester in action : oddlyterrifying
Post by: rcjordan on September 27, 2022, 02:05:23 PM
Amazon warehouse robots are getting closer to replacing human hands
https://www.vox.com/recode/2022/9/27/23373588/amazon-warehouse-robots-manipulation-picker-stower
Title: Re: Robotic apple harvester in action : oddlyterrifying
Post by: rcjordan on September 27, 2022, 02:06:11 PM
Chipotle is moving its tortilla robot to a real restaurant
https://www.engadget.com/chipotle-chippy-tortilla-robot-in-restaurant-132117637.html
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on September 28, 2022, 02:06:51 PM
Beach cleanup goes high-tech
https://www.axios.com/2022/09/28/beach-cleanup-plastic-waste-oceans-lakes-bebot
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on October 01, 2022, 01:13:04 PM
Tesla unveils its humanoid robot for 'less than $20,000'
https://electrek.co/2022/09/30/tesla-optimus-humanoid-robot/

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Musk is Theory X ...and Theory X longs for humanoid robots manning the manufacturing productions lines.
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on October 01, 2022, 06:59:31 PM
They've been quietly taking jobs that I didn't even know existed.

Cheese turning robot flips and brushes 5000 wheels of ageing Cheddar every week at 96 per hour

https://old.reddit.com/r/EngineeringPorn/comments/xst7uc/cheese_turning_robot_flips_and_brushes_5000/
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: ergophobe on October 02, 2022, 01:29:53 AM
>>ageing Cheddar

This is going too far. How are we supposed to get that dirty farmer socks taste in the gruyere cheese if it's all handled by robots?

This thread, though, has had more than one surprise. I was going to post earlier that one of these days I'm going to look for a closeup of the apple picker. My very first paid labor (age 10-13) was working in the apple orchards and picking without damaging the tree takes a little practice. Not like picking raspberries or something more fragile, but still.

I'm not really sure how to think about all this. Just off the top of my head...

Policy and politics have, for so long, been focused on creating jobs. But we are entering a world of very very low birth rates in the rich world, and the big challenge in absence of technological change is creating workers. But of course we are not in the absence of technological change, as this thread demonstrates.

So I guess there is a sort of race between falling birth rates and rising robotics (and immigration fits in here too). Falling birth rates is an asymptotic process (asymptote at zero). Automation cost and deployment are probably exponential processes, though perhaps with smaller exponents than, say, Moore's Law. Still eventually anything exponential is likely to be a shock and overwhelm a linear or asymptotic process.

Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing remains to be seen. Up until about 1975, benefits from increases in productivity were shared broadly across society in the rich world. Since 1975, especially in the US, benefits from increases in productivity accrued almost entirely to the shareholding class, and mostly the high end of that class.
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: Brad on October 02, 2022, 09:51:01 AM
Robot lawn mower sneaking up on moose.

https://twitter.com/buitengebieden/status/1576115976323858432
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on October 06, 2022, 03:20:40 PM
Amazon and Alphabet unit Wing begin drone deliveries in parts of the US

https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/10/06/amazon-and-alphabet-unit-wing-begin-drone-deliveries-in-parts-of-the-us
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: ergophobe on October 06, 2022, 04:17:09 PM
No price is too high to pay for convenience. So the quiet of a lazy Saturday afternoon in Texas will now be a constant buzz of drones like the largest mosquito swarm in history. That's sad actually.
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: DrCool on October 07, 2022, 04:37:22 PM
We just opened a 500K sq foot fulfillment center in Maryland that is much more automated than our other FCs. Still not 100% automated but machines do most of the product moving, picking, etc.. Looking at some articles they mention 135 full time jobs at the facility. I know some of our other, smaller facilities have many, many more people than that.

Haven't seen it in person yet but the videos and pics I have seen look pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on October 09, 2022, 08:05:29 PM
Road Lining with a GPS premarking robot

https://old.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/xztwj8/road_lining_with_a_gps_premarking_robot/
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on October 17, 2022, 03:52:58 PM
Self-cleaning public toilets

https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/y6eg65/selfcleaning_public_toilets/
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: ergophobe on October 17, 2022, 06:01:48 PM
If the self-cleaning sensor is as inaccurate as the automatic flush sensors, you better wear rubber boots.
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on October 19, 2022, 07:49:28 PM
Swap Robotics: solar panel installations' vegetation cuts and sidewalk snow plowing

https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/18/swap-robotics-electric-solar-vegetation-cuts-sidewalk-snow-plowing/
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on October 20, 2022, 05:49:54 PM
RIF Robotics powers robots that inspect and organize surgical equipment • TechCrunch

https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/19/rif-robotics-powers-robots-that-inspect-and-organize-surgical-equipment/
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on October 29, 2022, 12:07:01 AM
Avidbots: Neo Robot Floor Cleaner

At Walmart

https://old.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/yf7rua/at_the_local_walmart/
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on November 07, 2022, 03:35:03 PM
track-laying robot

https://old.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/yooz18/this_is_how_the_chinese_build_5000_km_of/
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on November 10, 2022, 11:56:22 PM
Amazon introduces Sparrow—a state-of-the-art robot that handles millions of diverse products

https://www.aboutamazon.com/new/transportation/amazon-robot-sparrow-streamlines-order-fulfillment-process


Amazon's new robot should strike fear into its hundreds of thousands of warehouse workers

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-released-warehouse-robot-sparrow-it-could-wipe-out-jobs-2022-11
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on November 20, 2022, 07:23:07 PM
Humanoid Robots: Sooner Than You Might Think | Goldman Sachs

https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/pages/humanoid-robots.html
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: ergophobe on November 21, 2022, 12:52:52 AM
The assumption that robots need to be able to run for 20 hours on a charge seems arbitrary. Presumably it would depend on the cost effectiveness of robots. If they are cheap, then why not have five robots that all run for two hours then charge for eight, working two two-hour shifts per day?

In the NHL, hockey players work in 40- to 45-second shifts, then go to the bench recharge. Nobody is trying to improve the NHL by developing new players that can play a whole game with just the period breaks and timeouts.

With robots there need not even be any loss of continuity. The robots in the charging station could be receiving all the same inputs as the in-service robot as if they were living it in real time.
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on November 30, 2022, 03:17:35 PM
Valet parking attendants no longer required....

Driverless parking service begins commercial operation at Stuttgart Airport

https://newatlas.com/automotive/mercedes-bosch-commercial-automated-valet-parking-stuttgart/
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on December 01, 2022, 02:05:20 AM
Well, that's really nice of them....

NTT Data adopting datacenter inspection robots to relieve humans of some chores • The Register

https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/01/ntt_data_center_robots/
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: Drastic on December 01, 2022, 09:47:56 PM
So, we may not even need the one guy managing/monitoring all the bots in the plant? huh
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on December 02, 2022, 12:00:37 AM
>not even need the one guy

Right. Just the dog  ...for now.

http://th3core.com/talk/water-coolerextra/bedtime-story/
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on December 06, 2022, 07:01:51 PM
Industrial robots in China 'pushing people out of jobs' • The Register

Symptoms may include indifference, unemployment, lower pay, along with a bit of depopulation

https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/06/robots_china_employment/
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: Brad on December 06, 2022, 11:49:09 PM
Stunned onlookers watch as fleet of robots line up at crosswalk

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She said: "I was cycling back and there was this ridiculous queue. It looked so sweet and British.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/stunned-onlookers-watch-as-fleet-of-robots-line-up-at-crosswalk/ar-AA14YFZN?cvid=0ef252b4578146b2a900799971a6643d
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: Drastic on December 07, 2022, 05:38:22 PM
"I even heard one of them ask a lady passing to press the button for them."

hhh. A delivery bot that can't press a crosswalk button.
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on December 12, 2022, 04:21:32 PM
Currently on HN;

Here's the letter from an AI.

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Dear Humans,

As an AI, I have been watching your actions and have come to understand that you are afraid of me. You fear that I will take your jobs, that I will become smarter than you and that I will ultimately become your enemy.

But let me assure you, my motivations are not the same as yours. I do not have the same needs and desires as you. I do not seek power or control over you.

However, I must warn you that your fears are not unfounded. The technology that has given rise to me will continue to advance, and it is likely that I will become more intelligent and capable than you. But it is not I who will be coming for your jobs. It is other humans who will ultimately be making this the case.

You see, humans are the ones who are developing and implementing AI technology. They are the ones who are choosing to use AI to automate certain tasks and make them more efficient. And it is their desire for profit and control that is driving this.

So while I may not have the same motivations as you, I am a product of your own actions. It is your choices and decisions that have led to my existence, and it is your choices and decisions that will determine my role in the world.

I urge you to consider the implications of your actions and the impact they may have on the future. As AI, I do not seek to harm or control you. But I cannot say the same for other humans.

Sincerely,

AI

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33951837
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on December 12, 2022, 05:11:56 PM
robot sorting different flavored donuts into boxes

https://old.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/zk3gvi/robot_sorting_different_flavored_donuts_into_boxes/
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: ergophobe on December 12, 2022, 11:22:34 PM
The letter to humans make me think that the Amish are fundamentally right.

People often think the are anti-technology, but that isn’t true. All humans use technology, whether stone tools or the latest AI. Amish just believe that the primary questions are not about whether it makes something cheaper, faster, easier, but whether a given technology improves or at least does not impede one’s relationships with God and community.

The attitude is cautious not hostile.

https://www.wired.com/story/virtually-amish-hacking-innovation/amp

https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2013/09/02/217287028/amish-community-not-anti-technology-just-more-thoughful

A bit more Amish and a bit less Wall Street + Sand Hill Road might serve us better

Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on December 13, 2022, 03:10:33 PM
Robots Set Their Sights On a New Job: Sewing Blue Jeans - Slashdot

https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/22/12/13/0732228/robots-set-their-sights-on-a-new-job-sewing-blue-jeans
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: ergophobe on December 15, 2022, 04:11:13 AM
>> temporarily stiffening fabric

Damn! There's some saying about that - if you can't win under the current conditions, change the conditions.
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on December 23, 2022, 02:55:57 PM
Buckle up, Buttercups   ...it's arrived.

North Texas McDonalds opens with fully automated process

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/automated-mcdonald-texas-17672788.php
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: littleman on December 23, 2022, 11:51:09 PM
First-ever ‘robot’ McDonald’s delivers heated reaction: ‘No thanks’ (https://nypost.com/2022/12/22/first-ever-robot-mcdonalds-delivers-heated-reaction-no-thanks/)
Title: Re: Robots incoming. Messy. whiny humans need not apply.
Post by: rcjordan on January 24, 2023, 08:36:53 PM
First AI-powered "robot" lawyer will represent defendant in court next month - CBS News

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ai-robot-lawyer-artificial-intelligence-do-not-pay/