Author Topic: (US) March of the Non-White Babies  (Read 53107 times)

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Re: (US) March of the Non-White Babies
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2020, 12:47:57 PM »
tick-tock

Census shows white decline, nonwhite majority among youngest
https://apnews.com/a3600edf620ccf2759080d00f154c069

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Re: (US) March of the Non-White Babies
« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2020, 04:32:21 AM »
Reminds me of the lyric the Woody Guthrie lyric from "She Came Along to Me" (it's one of the thousands of song lyrics he left behind, written in 1939-1967, but when nobody knows. Recorded in 1998 by Billy Bragg). Anyway, this topic always makes me think of this lyric:

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And all creeds and kinds and colors
Of us are blending
Till I suppose ten million years from now
We'll all be just alike
Same color, same size, working together
And maybe we'll have all of the fascists
Out of the way by then
Maybe so

The scary part of that article, though, is the idea that 20% of Americans will be seniors (and thus on Medicare and Social Security) but 2030. At a certain point, the youngsters may just have a enough voting clout to decide that we can't keep spending all their money and cut us older people off.
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Re: (US) March of the Non-White Babies
« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2021, 02:35:42 AM »

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Re: (US) March of the Non-White Babies
« Reply #48 on: August 12, 2021, 10:17:18 PM »
2020 census finds U.S. is more diverse than ever as white, rural America shrinks
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/census-shows-u-s-diversifying-white-population-shrinking-n1276677

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Re: (US) March of the Non-White Babies
« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2021, 01:38:39 PM »

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Re: (US) March of the Non-White Babies
« Reply #50 on: December 18, 2021, 03:49:38 AM »
I hesitate to post this, but it's kind of interesting in light of this thread

In a recent article, Barton Gellman interviews a researcher who looked for every correlation he could find among those who took part in the "event" at the Capitol last January: income, education, etc. It turns out that the insurrectionists tended to come from non-rural areas and from areas that had gone for Biden rather than Trump, but these were fairly weak correlations.

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Only one meaningful correlation emerged. Other things being equal, insurgents were much more likely to come from a county where the white share of the population was in decline. For every one-point drop in a countyís percentage of non-Hispanic whites from 2015 to 2019, the likelihood of an insurgent hailing from that county increased by 25 percent. This was a strong link, and it held up in every state.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/01/january-6-insurrection-trump-coup-2024-election/620843/

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Re: (US) March of the Non-White Babies
« Reply #51 on: December 18, 2021, 01:53:37 PM »
> For every one-point drop in a countyís percentage of non-Hispanic whites

Nice find.  When I was working on my motor homes and spending a fair amount of time around Orlando in a section of the city that was flashing over to hispanics, I heard plenty of white flight and/or disgruntled chatter from the white workers there.  One or two actually moved away.

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Re: (US) March of the Non-White Babies
« Reply #52 on: February 03, 2022, 04:10:50 PM »
Please buckle your seat belts and prepare for turbulence.

> For every one-point drop in a countyís percentage of non-Hispanic whites

"The U.S. Hispanic population reached 62.1 million in 2020, an increase of 23% over the previous decade that outpaced the nationís 7% overall population growth. "

U.S. Hispanic population continued its geographic spread in the 2010s | Pew Research Center
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/02/03/u-s-hispanic-population-continued-its-geographic-spread-in-the-2010s/

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Re: (US) March of the Non-White Babies
« Reply #53 on: November 09, 2023, 07:39:03 PM »
Over 1 in 4 Americans will be Latino by 2060, census projects

"Hispanics are now 19.1% of the U.S. population but are projected to make up 26.9% of the population in less than four decades. Meanwhile, the non-Hispanic white population is projected to continue to decline from 58.9% now to 44.9% by 2060. "

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/1-4-americans-will-latino-2060-census-projects-rcna124244

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Re: (US) March of the Non-White Babies
« Reply #54 on: November 10, 2023, 08:00:52 PM »
The "Hispanic = non-White" is such an arbitrary distinction.  There are many people from Latin America who are mixed ancestry, but there are also many who have European roots.   Antonio Banderas (born in Spain) was labeled a "person of color" recently.  From what I can tell this seems to be a distinctly USA based illogic and it is very silly.   

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Re: (US) March of the Non-White Babies
« Reply #55 on: November 13, 2023, 06:00:05 PM »
>Hispanic

Always found that strange (as a Scot) as it does seem to be a North America thing. From my little pov Spanish are European and ergo 'caucasian'.

I'd leap the guess it's more to do with the legacy of the Spanish empire and Protestantism, and all the politics around that, from them til now.

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« Reply #56 on: November 14, 2023, 08:31:05 PM »
>>The "Hispanic = non-White" is such an arbitrary distinction.

All racial distinctions are fundamentally arbitrary. From a genetic point of view, there is more variation among individuals within a race than average variation between races. The exception is certain central African people (often called "Bushmen" but that's a deprecated term). They descend from peoples who were less affected by the genetic bottleneck that most of the rest of us descend from (so they actually have more genetic diversity in their small population than the whole rest of humanity combined).

>>North America thing

In the particulars, yes. In general, though, most of these ideas are a legacy of colonialism in one way or another. I think most scholars agree with Hannah Arendt's classic Origins of Totalitarianism that racism and anti-semitism as we know them are mostly 19th-century inventions. Yes, people hated each other based on ethnic and national differences since humans have been humans, but the doctrine of race is quite modern. For example, in the 17th and early 18th centuries, Africa slaves who were brought to America were identified by nation and ethnicity. It was only after a major slave uprising where African slaves and poor whites rose up together against the plantation system that this shifted radically. By the late 18th century, manifests just listed African slaves as Black, because that was all that mattered.

It was also why the Southern states pushed hard for the Second Amendment, the right to bear arms. The well-regulated militia were intended to be ready to put down uprisings.

But the same general dynamic happened in every colonial region whether American, British, Dutch, German, French.

In the US, the "one drop" doctrine indicates also how arbitrary this is. By that doctrine, codified as law in several states prior to the 1960s, it stated that one drop of black blood made someone black. So someone who has 15 white great grandparents and  1 black great grandparent was legally black. That's how arbitrary these things are. The Nazis sent respresentatives to both the US and South Africa to study this when developing their Jewish policies.

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Re: (US) March of the Non-White Babies
« Reply #57 on: November 15, 2023, 05:15:42 PM »
>the "one drop" doctrine

That makes so much sense given the conversations I've had with my NA Native Mrs. The reserves have their own new bunch of rules about blood quantum as per CA/US laws.

Conversations over here about Meghan Markle which I didn't care for much talked about this, to me she was of European descent but my Mrs would call her 'non white' as if in the frame of potential discrimination, which she probably would be given her position. I'd have never put her in that position (as in, I wouldn't see why other people would see it as a thing).