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Mozilla Foundation: Modern cars are a privacy nightmare.
« on: September 06, 2023, 12:54:34 PM »
Itís Official: Cars Are the Worst Product Category We Have Ever Reviewed for Privacy

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/its-official-cars-are-the-worst-product-category-we-have-ever-reviewed-for-privacy/

Debbie felt the same after experiencing the Volvo setup & login routines. Abandon hope all ye who enter here.

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Re: Mozilla Foundation: Modern cars are a privacy nightmare.
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2023, 04:28:00 PM »
Better title...

Most modern cars sell user information to data miners, study finds

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/sep/7/most-modern-cars-sell-user-information-data-miners/

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Re: Mozilla Foundation: Modern cars are a privacy nightmare.
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2023, 04:46:07 PM »
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Re: Mozilla Foundation: Modern cars are a privacy nightmare.
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2023, 07:58:32 PM »
The cameras and connectivity of Teslas are such a concern to the Chinese government that they are posting "no Tesla" singes near all government facilities.   I don't think I will ever own a car that has a driver cam.  Corvette has had a type of "black box" that records all driver data for like 20 years now, I remember thinking the idea outrageous at the time, but it's pretty tame to what's happening today.

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Re: Mozilla Foundation: Modern cars are a privacy nightmare.
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2023, 08:08:10 PM »
>corvette

Black boxes are in all major US brands since around 2010 (ish). 

"In my own experience as a Michigan car and truck accident lawyer, I regularly use event data recorder information in cars and trucks as evidence in most of my serious auto wreck cases. Often, in the event of a fatality or a very serious injury, Michigan State Police will have already downloaded the data as part of the police investigation as well. However, this is still the exception, not the rule. Most smaller cities and townships in Michigan do not have the resources to download black boxes as part of a police investigation into a car or truck accident."

Black Boxes In Cars: What You Need To Know
https://www.michiganautolaw.com/blog/2023/03/13/black-boxes-in-cars/

> own a car that has a driver cam

Heh, that's one of the first things I asked about the Volvo.  It has 'surround' exterior cameras but no driver cam that I can find. (The overhead view looking down on the vehicle is really well done.  When I first saw that view from the backseat at the dealer demo my thought was 'Where the hell is THAT camera?"  Then I figured out it was a superimposed image of the car model. Handy for parking.)
« Last Edit: September 07, 2023, 08:15:28 PM by rcjordan »