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Water Cooler / Re: Quarantine Reading (Buckworks)
« on: Today at 06:11:19 AM »
Theresa started the first book today and I suspect will finish it before sundown. That alone was worth it. I've been thinking for a while she needed a quiet day and this provided it. Didn't even start up her computer today.

always good to hear :) 

I have passed that list to Sue, as she reads way to fast as well, and has a couple of Robin Hobbs left to read, but is reluctant to start them, as she does not want to finish them.  She will be delighted!  She has just started re reading a Robert Jordan (Dont bother, way to much description, he struggles to get on with the story.)

After 20 years of not reading any Fantasy or Scifi, its fun to get back to it.

added... blimey that is a good list Buckworks!!!!

Water Cooler / Re: Covid 19 interesting data from the UK
« on: May 29, 2020, 05:37:20 PM »
Interesting.  I have to say, that the biggest differences in the outcomes of the studies seemed to me to be in the assumptions made at the start. 

If you think the death rate is 1% of those infected, or 0.01%, then the projected deaths will differ, from catastrophic to not so bad.

My feeling is that Duncan Campbell is probably right.

Water Cooler / Re: Corona Virus - Save Yourselves
« on: May 27, 2020, 08:36:50 PM »
Is it possible to split north and South France?
It could just be testing and reporting artifacts. I did think maybe it was because more of the population is rural in Sweden and therefore interacting with fewer people, but in fact that is quite the opposite. Only 12.57% of Swedes live in rural areas, while 19.5% of French do [3,4].

Perhaps the mediterranean way (Passionate, hugs and kisses) has an impact.

Water Cooler / Re: Covid 19 interesting data from the UK
« on: May 25, 2020, 09:42:36 AM »
Its family... moving from Zoom will be big :) EVERYONE would have to download the software.

But you right, I do need access to here ipad.

Good to hear the 80th went well. Not sure I want to be hopping on a plane too soon.  Not from the UK anyway.  Next trip is Sept for me, plenty of time away for them to get the systems sorted hopefully.

>I feel like giving up on this stupid technology 
That was meant to be in Mums words, I put it as my words. :) So not giving up just yet. :)

Water Cooler / Re: Covid 19 interesting data from the UK
« on: May 25, 2020, 06:02:52 AM »
You are right, in that I am making broad assumptions. But it is based on the data.  I dont think you need answers to your questions to help make the emotional decision.  I prbably wont put this in the same structured well thought out argument that you do, but fundamentally:

The message from the UK govt, is stay alert, and where ever possible maintain social distancing.

From the stats that health care workers are no more likely to contract the virus, then that says to me, that if we sit outside, (dont go into a metal tube like a plane or bus) and that it is clearly not as contagious as measles, then we will have to pass it on by her touching something that has the body fluid of someone infected on, and then touch her face. So she and we will wash our hands.


Next the top and bottom scale are clear.  Do nothing, or lockdown. The other 2 are irrelevant for my assessment. Look at the do nothing. The difference for an 86 year old female with no underlying conditions goes from 33 in 289  chance of death to 45 in 289 chance of death. (Chance of death in the next 12 months (11.3%)  that goes up to 15.8% if the country does nothing) Well, we are not doing nothing.

Next consider that in the UK the death rate is on its way down at the moment, and  so in the number of infections is likely to be leading that on its was down too.  so now is probably the safest time to meet Mum... for the last 3 months.

So, put that against the fact that as a social person, who is missing her family, it is her raison d'etre.  She is lonely, isolated, losing weight she cannot afford to lose (weights under 7 stone I believe).
All her friends are dead or dying, as dad was 11 years older, so their social group tended toward his age.  Don't get me wrong, she is strong mentally, and physically for her size (20 mins exercise every morning for the last 40 years has helped). 

But the need is there.... She needs positivity, a bit of laughter,... just to see us as a family, instead of hours on her own, with just the phone and the odd Zoom call for company.

As an aside. Zoom is frustrating. I end up on the phone for 10 mins helping set her up first.  Last night, I got a zoom call going, just the 2 of us before the family joined, and I asked:

"Can you hear me mum?"
The answer came back:
"Oh no I cannot!!!"  I feel like giving up on this stupid technology.

 There are more like that. Incredulous moments. Another:
After 10 mins of her saying she cannot see us or hear us. About to give up. She tells me that the reason is a big white "page" on the screen that covers it all up. It says something like "Click here to use internet Audio"

I throw those in, to illustrate her frustration with one of the key form of contact. The phone is starting to give her similar issues. ad did the computer stuff.

Water Cooler / Re: Covid 19 interesting data from the UK
« on: May 24, 2020, 07:22:15 AM »
Might find this interesting to:

Have a play with the numbers.  My takeaway is that the risk to my Mum is higher from Mental Illness than it is from coming to Supper with us.

added.... Except it is showing higher deaths for women than men... something wrong there. Keep refreshing the page, and changing the inputs and the data changes. I wonder if its that code you were talking about Gary.

Water Cooler / Covid 19 interesting data from the UK
« on: May 24, 2020, 04:58:05 AM »

Still trying to get my head round some of this.

Healthcare workers, including those with jobs such as doctors and nurses, were not found to have higher rates of death involving COVID-19 when compared with the rate among those whose death involved COVID-19 of the same age and sex in the general population.


A total of 2,494 deaths involving the coronavirus (COVID-19) in the working age population (those aged 20 to 64 years) of England and Wales were registered up to and including 20 April 2020.
I think we were over 30,000 total on the 20th. april.

Water Cooler / Re: Core continuing commitment to health and fitness
« on: May 23, 2020, 05:34:44 AM »
I'm worrying about how long it's taking my short daily routine to get easier

It never gets easier, you get faster and stronger, but it its never easy :)

Water Cooler / Re: Core continuing commitment to health and fitness
« on: May 22, 2020, 09:37:48 PM »
A one hour workout is just 4% of your day.

If you don't make time for fitness you need to make time for sickness.

Ok on the wall :)

Water Cooler / Re: Core continuing commitment to health and fitness
« on: May 22, 2020, 09:45:41 AM »
Just popped into this thread to see how you Guys were doing.... :) 

I have been steadily increasing exercise over the last 2 months, for a short walk every day, to a long walk, to now pulling in workouts swimming and cycling. It is all at the pace of Sue and Lucy, so no muscle work specifically, and a lot of time spent on stretching.  Some of that has also been heavy gardening, sawing, pulling down an old shed (Its a heavy one, it was an old railway carriage).

I can say I had not realised how lethargic I had become. I cannot say I am fully back on form, but after 2 months, I am getting there.   The break from work has been good for me.  I have only just started spending time stretching in the morning, instead of rushing off to do the first job.

The key is going to be how we all maintain this going forward, and as I need to work still, I am not sure how I am going to do it....  which I know is not a great start.

How are all of your commitments going? I hope you are finding this experience  an uplifting one, on top of all of the worry that comes with it, and snatching some Magic moments from it.

Depends on the deal, but on the face of it it a no brainer... move, unless you are scared of loosing your job.

Its a big unless I guess.

Eeek.. those pumps aren't cheap.  not so good find then :)  What about the electronics?  Would something like that go on a PI do you think?

Or Arduino

Do you think these work?

I agree, it would be nice to calibrate... This stuff stinks.

I think your best bet is as you say, borrow RCs ;)

Or Added:

Build a detector... at 16, add it to a PI

Ergo,  Very good points.

However dont  you only need a meter if you are using it in an unheated room?

Otherwise just work on room temperature, and provided you are sure you over saturate, its fine I think .

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