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Traffic / Re: Best way to get into wikipedia?
« on: July 23, 2018, 09:00:02 AM »
Thanks both,

I spent 20 minutes following the Danny Sullivan saga, his frustrations and DMOZ reference were understandable. Good to get into the editors mindset.

Thankfully the item isn't SEO/marketing related, I've came up against that aggression from non-marketing techs before. Mind you, they must get a ton of spam on wiki - they (their general approach) does seem thin skinned about the topic.

I've created an account and made a small edit on a local page. Seems the way to go is (optionally) do a few edits, then create a stub page on the subject and see if it sticks

Traffic / Re: Best way to get into wikipedia?
« on: July 22, 2018, 09:01:52 AM »

>probably seen
I hadn't looked at the conflicting noise of the web specifically for the 'how to', hadn't done the original submission either. Link was very insightful

>backstage discussion
I think the original submission was a couple years back and there is a cached discussion I'd came across. The rejection reason was simply that the subject item was not notable enough, though it is mentioned in one or two other Wiki pages

Traffic / Best way to get into wikipedia?
« on: July 21, 2018, 08:16:59 PM »
Pretty much as per title. I have a topic that IMO totally 'deserves' a page but on a previous attempt the editors deemed it wasn't worthy.

Water Cooler / Re: Musk and the 'pedo' comment.
« on: July 18, 2018, 09:40:04 PM »
> THEN Musk fires off the 'pedo' retort

Apparently the other guy told Musk 'where to stick his submarine idea' beforehand. Still, no excuse for escalating it with that kind of sociopathic lying about his character.

Traffic / Re: I made a Web Ring 5 Days Ago. I'll see myself out.
« on: July 10, 2018, 11:18:18 AM »
Pretty cool. G and paranoia has really hindered people linking out liberally to stuff of interest.

Economics & Investing / Re: Brexit
« on: July 10, 2018, 08:53:07 AM »
>details that campaigners ignored.

That's how I'm seeing it. Boris Johnson likes sounding like Churchill but totally lacks the cahonas, and TBF has walked away from the problem twice. A coward.

The whole charade feels a bit like England has an identity crisis. Hopefully they win the World Cup and call the whole thing off.

Not so much technologies as discoveries


pure tech

mass production

They wiped my legit signup in the process.

Their situation must be grim where they're aggressively weeding out the supposed minor % cost of automated accounts taking up resources.

Water Cooler / More Data Leaks - Exactis, 340 million records
« on: June 29, 2018, 11:48:24 AM »

"simply used Shodan to search for all ElasticSearch databases visible on publicly accessible servers with American IP addresses. That returned about 7,000 results. As Troia combed through them, he quickly found the Exactis database, unprotected by any firewall."

"Each record contains entries that go far beyond contact information and public records to include more than 400 variables on a vast range of specific characteristics: whether the person smokes, their religion, whether they have dogs or cats, and interests as varied as scuba diving and plus-size apparel."

>Parent can then control access by device : hours per week, service times, blocked sites etc

Most routers already have a basic level of access control when it comes to devices and time of day. They could probably be made a lot more non-tech friendly, but generally you just login, identify the device and put some limits on

Traffic / Re: History of Search Engines Posts
« on: June 06, 2018, 10:13:45 PM »
Thank you Aaron,

I'll take screenshots as the aesthetic change says a lot in itself, very much appreciated.

The baked in Google estate is something I'm aware of, at least the examples you cited. I feel people generally mistake the invasiveness of many of the things you reference with the knowledge graph stuff that's generally available from open sources. Still, when you remove the open source stuff, there's a lot of commercial motives at play.

It's just interesting especially for someone younger to know there was a time where it was simply organic + ads, and organic was purely organic.

Separately, I do speak to a lot of people in the tech industry (server / programming people), who have many years online but pretty much take search engine results as gospel and 'despise' anything that involves the conception of SEO. I feel that is a lot down to naivety and that manipulating result is a poison on the well. Given the philosophical conversations about information retrieval over the years on webmasterworld and elsewhere I'm sure everyone just has to take a neutral stance in the end.

Traffic / Re: History of Search Engines Posts
« on: June 05, 2018, 02:22:13 PM »
Those are great Rich, cheers

Any more would be great - just building up context of how things appear the way they are now.

Traffic / History of Search Engines Posts
« on: June 05, 2018, 10:00:01 AM »
Plenty of you I'm sure have read those mega long blog posts that cover the general timeline of search engine evolution, I remember reading some but never bothered to bookmark or remember who wrote them, they just seemed cool to read at the time. They tended to be written by SEOs who'd seen the day to day news and gradual changes implemented.

I'm interested in one that covers the general timeline of engines, mainly Google and how the real estate for organic has shrank, and how privacy has been eroded.

It'll be used by someone whose relatively inexperienced that can muster some context and facts from those articles

Do you recall any good ones (in the context of they covered the points you felt were most important)? Might need to check the wayback machine if it's older but relevant.

Economics & Investing / Re: trade war
« on: June 02, 2018, 06:13:39 PM »
>80's ANYTHING from the US would be the most awesome thing

Definitely for me when growing up in the 80s in Scotland. Michael Jackson, WWF, hollywood... what wasn't to like.

Eye rolls when Western leaders talk about the free world, though. Protectionism seems to rear its head now and again, pretty sure there were similar tariffs in the early 2000s by Bush.

Water Cooler / Re: I kinda miss those 5000 search engines.
« on: May 26, 2018, 07:00:48 AM »
I'm probably not in the best position to talk about it, but the owner might be interested in stopping by sometime.

Privacy and no 3rd party tracking is a cornerstone of all future plans though. He's pointed out some fundamental issues with the way DDG serve their results...

I'm sure there will be ads at some point, but nothing that would involve your browsing history.

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