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Water Cooler / Re: I kinda miss those 5000 search engines.
« on: May 23, 2018, 02:20:16 PM »
aaron: thanks for your post.  So much new info and good observations.


They had their day and it is largely over.  I see two scenarios left for directories that would be run as hobbies not for profit. 1. local geo specific search, especially in secondary tourist markets. Use the owner's local knowledge to blow away anything an algo might try to do. Boots on the ground promotion, fliers in local restaurants sort of thing. Don't be dependent on Google.  2. Indieweb and blog subjects.   The Indieweb movement is not hostile to search engines but they aim to have discovery that does not depend on silos and gatekeepers. I don't think they really care about Google listings or rankings. It's about the fun and quality of words and thoughts and open source code that they care about.  You won't make a dime with either hobby only, but I still believe helping people navigate the web is worthwhile.


This is news to me.  I'm glad somebody is giving it a try if for no other reason than they would make a good starter crawl for new search engines.  Things that provide legit web navigation independent of Google are good.

>new search engine

I was musing about this last night.  If that reminds you of Duckduckgo, that's because it is what I suspect they are doing. It may only be a contingency plan like how Apple kept an Intel version of OSX secretly in dev for years just in case IBM abandoned chip making.  If I were DDG, I would not be spending all the time and money building a search site and brand upon something as ephemeral as Bing. (DDG is really a meta-search: mostly Bing, some Yandex, some their own small crawl with Amazon, Wikipedia, Wikihow and others rolled in.)  I'd have a plan B and C.  And I just have a suspicion that starting their own index, is either DDG's secret endgame or in their contingency plans.


I was making notes about Inktomi the other day and I could not remember the name Hotbot.  It's kinda neat they are back. Nice clean SERP for now.  They toned down the color scheme.  hhh  The privacy search niche is growing. Any word on who owns them?


I thought it was long dead.  I know the owner made the Gigablast script Open Source.

Water Cooler / Re: Bacon, a## and a Cat
« on: May 23, 2018, 10:39:12 AM »
There's a cat?

Marketing / Re: Adobe to buy Magento Commerce for $1.68 billion
« on: May 23, 2018, 10:38:17 AM »
aaron I had to read that several times before it came together. It wasn't you, it was my pre-morning coffee brain.  Thanks for explaining it.

The parts I found interesting is Amazon expanding their ad reach and both Amz and Adobe trying to compete in the online ad racket.  Competition is good.

Water Cooler / Re: I kinda miss those 5000 search engines.
« on: May 22, 2018, 07:58:35 PM »
If Marissa Meyer had been able to get Yahoo out of their contract with Bing and start their own spidering engine again I had hoped they would revive the AltaVista name.

Infoseek got borged by the Mouse, but the name has been out of circulation so long only us geezers remember it so you could reuse it and all the kids would think it is new and shiny.

Excite and Lycos are still trying to be portals.  To bad somebody does not try something new in search with them.

Water Cooler / Re: Bacon, a## and a Cat
« on: May 22, 2018, 05:20:31 PM »
I think this nails it, ukgimp.

Water Cooler / Re: I kinda miss those 5000 search engines.
« on: May 22, 2018, 01:12:33 AM »

Back then you were, LM.

That was a really cool setup.  And I bet it was fun, at least in retrospect.  I never was anywhere near that class. Strictly low tech.

I completely forgot about Direct Hit until you mentioned it.

This was the site I used in the early days to submit URL's.  I'm amazed even a static version is still around.  It got me started.

Water Cooler / Re: I kinda miss those 5000 search engines.
« on: May 22, 2018, 12:13:13 AM »
Oh and I miss Searchhippo.  hhh 

I actually used the HipRank API in one of my directories.  Sites were listed  in the categories by HipRank order.  Well use of the API was free.  It was my little joke on the Google Directory, but nobody understood it (plus it wasn't very good) so I eventually ditched it.  :D

Water Cooler / I kinda miss those 5000 search engines.
« on: May 21, 2018, 11:11:49 PM »
I kinda miss submitting sites to 1,500 to 5000 "search engines".  My email inbox used to be jammed with spam asking me to submit my sites or buy some software that would submit for me.  It has been a long time since the last one of those emails.

I also miss directory optimization: where we would craft a title and description for Yahoo, dmoz and Looksmart that contained the keywords we needed without sounding or looking commercial or spammy and hope it got past the editors.

But I would kind of like to at least have the option to submit my URL's to a few (maybe 5, please) major search engines besides Google.  That would be rip snorting good fun. 

Water Cooler / Re: Spherical-earth deniers!
« on: May 19, 2018, 05:29:33 PM »
Sorry gm66, but I'm overjoyed that isn't taking place in America.  We have a surplus of crackpots.

Water Cooler / Re: Ever done hotel/travel amenity photo shoots?
« on: May 18, 2018, 10:53:35 PM »

Water Cooler / Re: YOUTUBE music thread
« on: May 18, 2018, 03:13:30 PM »
I always liked this theme:

Reminds me of Facebook.  hhhh


Yeah but Google would put ads up on all the bridge view screens. 

Economics & Investing / Re: UK: Single-use plastics ban
« on: May 18, 2018, 10:13:21 AM »
>Final Straw

Pretty cool.  But my first thought was, "Och, another thing I have to carry around!"  Seriously, I had to go through security at a court house recently and the amount of stuff I had to leave in the car was amazing.

Water Cooler / Re: Don't get distracted
« on: May 16, 2018, 12:13:55 PM »

One of my old bosses used to say, "It's a rat race and the rats are winning."

Water Cooler / Re: YOUTUBE music thread
« on: May 15, 2018, 01:30:44 PM »
Santana is righteous good.

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