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Thanks both,

I spent 20 minutes following the Danny Sullivan saga, his frustrations and DMOZ reference were understandable. Good to get into the editors mindset.

Thankfully the item isn't SEO/marketing related, I've came up against that aggression from non-marketing techs before. Mind you, they must get a ton of spam on wiki - they (their general approach) does seem thin skinned about the topic.

I've created an account and made a small edit on a local page. Seems the way to go is (optionally) do a few edits, then create a stub page on the subject and see if it sticks

Pretty much as per title. I have a topic that IMO totally 'deserves' a page but on a previous attempt the editors deemed it wasn't worthy.

Pretty cool. G and paranoia has really hindered people linking out liberally to stuff of interest.

Not so much technologies as discoveries

penicillin
electricity

pure tech

telegraph
mass production

https://www.wired.com/story/exactis-database-leak-340-million-records/

"simply used Shodan to search for all ElasticSearch databases visible on publicly accessible servers with American IP addresses. That returned about 7,000 results. As Troia combed through them, he quickly found the Exactis database, unprotected by any firewall."

"Each record contains entries that go far beyond contact information and public records to include more than 400 variables on a vast range of specific characteristics: whether the person smokes, their religion, whether they have dogs or cats, and interests as varied as scuba diving and plus-size apparel."

Thank you Aaron,

I'll take screenshots as the aesthetic change says a lot in itself, very much appreciated.

The baked in Google estate is something I'm aware of, at least the examples you cited. I feel people generally mistake the invasiveness of many of the things you reference with the knowledge graph stuff that's generally available from open sources. Still, when you remove the open source stuff, there's a lot of commercial motives at play.

It's just interesting especially for someone younger to know there was a time where it was simply organic + ads, and organic was purely organic.

Separately, I do speak to a lot of people in the tech industry (server / programming people), who have many years online but pretty much take search engine results as gospel and 'despise' anything that involves the conception of SEO. I feel that is a lot down to naivety and that manipulating result is a poison on the well. Given the philosophical conversations about information retrieval over the years on webmasterworld and elsewhere I'm sure everyone just has to take a neutral stance in the end.

Plenty of you I'm sure have read those mega long blog posts that cover the general timeline of search engine evolution, I remember reading some but never bothered to bookmark or remember who wrote them, they just seemed cool to read at the time. They tended to be written by SEOs who'd seen the day to day news and gradual changes implemented.

I'm interested in one that covers the general timeline of engines, mainly Google and how the real estate for organic has shrank, and how privacy has been eroded.

It'll be used by someone whose relatively inexperienced that can muster some context and facts from those articles

Do you recall any good ones (in the context of they covered the points you felt were most important)? Might need to check the wayback machine if it's older but relevant.

I'm probably not in the best position to talk about it, but the owner might be interested in stopping by sometime.

Privacy and no 3rd party tracking is a cornerstone of all future plans though. He's pointed out some fundamental issues with the way DDG serve their results...

I'm sure there will be ads at some point, but nothing that would involve your browsing history.