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Traffic / Re: Roll your own search engine?
« on: September 20, 2018, 05:18:34 PM »
I read your review.  So DDG/Bing is still your primary, but only because of index size?

Good idea about parallel.

Any idea as to how they plan to monetize? 

Water Cooler / Re: Gonna have a breeze
« on: September 20, 2018, 12:57:09 AM »
Preliminary Hurricane Florence NC rainfall totals

Water Cooler / Re: Gonna have a breeze
« on: September 19, 2018, 12:14:22 PM »
This just in:

Florence kills 3.4 million chickens, 5,500 pigs in NC. The numbers are expected to rise.

Water Cooler / Re: Gonna have a breeze
« on: September 19, 2018, 12:16:55 AM »
>good question

Found something re pigs.

The N.C. Pork Council says some hogs also may have died when farms flooded, but that mortality figures are not yet available. The pork industry trade group says farmers have been working before and after the storm to move at-risk animals to higher ground. The industry lost about 2,800 hogs during flooding from Hurricane Matthew in 2016.

1.7 Million Chickens Drown as NC Rivers Swollen by Florence

In another article, there was one sentence saying that the state had been working with farms since Matthew to better build/prepare for floods.  It may not be related to that revised building code, but I've noticed in several photos that the hog parlors are built on a berm, giving them an additional 2 or 3 feet of elevation. When the surrounding area is low, 3 feet might just be enough in most cases.

>1.7 Million Chickens

Chickens, OTOH....

Many of the states have to form an insurance pool to underwrite the policies because consumer insurance companies withdraw from their market and housing -actually mortgages- tank.  Florida, North Carolina, and other coastal states back hurricane insurance. I suppose HI backs volcano insurance and Cali backs earthquake?  Politics set in and the pools are typically "not actuarially sound."

About 3 years ago, a large number of homes in Vegas were flooded by a freak rain. None of them had flood insurance, nor would I if I had a property there.


I generally self-insure. The exceptions are for personal liability, homeowners, and medical. That's a lot of exceptions, but most families seem to keep much more insurance, particularly vehicles & life.

rain from a hurricane leaking into a door and gaps in the siding is considered “flooding” and not “hurricane damage”'

That's the part that bothers me, if true. To my mind, it's an obvious, illogical loophole to dodge claims.

Economics & Investing / Re: trade war
« on: September 18, 2018, 06:33:28 PM »
Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross Speaks With CNBC's "Squawk Box" Today

Personally, I dislike the trade war but am undecided as to whether it will be effective.

Debbie says it'll be cathartic.

Water Cooler / Re: Gonna have a breeze
« on: September 18, 2018, 01:30:17 PM »
I'm at home and stayed here as the storm passed.  The top northeast corner of NC was only slightly affected with minor flooding. Wind damage was very sparse here, too.  Yesterday, for a medical appointment, I drove about 70 miles southwest to the very edge of the hard-hit area (Washington, NC mentioned somewhere above) without any problems, but from that point south and inland all hell has broken loose.

That flooded farm pictured above is 45 miles due south of my house.

I haven't confirmed this, but I suspect it's true

'Standard homeowners insurance in NC doesn’t include flood coverage
and rain from a hurricane leaking into a door and gaps in the siding
is considered “flooding” and not “hurricane damage”'

Water Cooler / Re: Gonna have a breeze
« on: September 18, 2018, 11:38:38 AM »
Millions of chickens drown in Florence floodwaters, manure pits damaged | Reuters


You can herd cattle. Pigs & chickens  ...not so much.

You pose a good question.  I'm pretty sure that they just take the loss, but that's just based on what I *haven't* seen or heard over the years.  I'm modestly familiar with industrial poultry farms (friends with one owner) and I'm pretty sure there is nothing they can do to gather & move 50,000+ birds.

BTW, the Smithfield/Gwaltney plant near the place where I-95 is currently flooded slaughters 30,000 hogs per day. Hyde county, which is pictured in that flatland photo above, has one egg farm that produces 2 million+ eggs per day. This gives an idea of the mind-boggling scale of these operations.

Water Cooler / Re: Gonna have a breeze
« on: September 18, 2018, 12:08:32 AM »

Update: now 9 million pigs

What's Worse Than Floodwater? Contaminated Floodwater With Dead Pigs Floating in It.

The bloated carcasses of hundreds of thousands of hogs, chickens and other drowned livestock bobbed in a nose-stinging soup of fecal matter, pesticides, fertilizer and gasoline so toxic that fish flopped helplessly on the surface to escape it. Rescue workers smeared Vick's Vapo-Rub under their noses to try to numb their senses against the stench.

Florence is forecast to make landfall in the same region as a much stronger storm.

Oh RC, nowhere is as flat as you say!

See below. Current drone photo.

Water Cooler / Re: Gonna have a breeze
« on: September 17, 2018, 11:44:22 PM »

HHH! EG, this is NC. We slaughter more animals in a day than Cali wants to hear about.  Last I heard, there were 5 million pigs here (roughly the same as the population of Denmark).  Many, if not most, of those are located in the devastated area.

Teasing aside, on the coast (particularly where many of the industrial farms are located) there is no reasonably nearby high ground. We are dead flat.  Ever been to Netherlands and been to the bottom lands there? That felt like home to me.

Water Cooler / Re: Gonna have a breeze
« on: September 17, 2018, 01:56:43 AM »
Wilmington and many other NC communities (some inland) are now islands --no road access.

Water Cooler / Re: Scorched England
« on: September 16, 2018, 07:09:12 PM »
>History being discovered, you know old stuff, older than the entire US

Likely birthplace of Henry VII found in Pembroke Castle

"Evidence of a possible building had recently shown up as parch marks in aerial photographs"

Water Cooler / Re: Gonna have a breeze
« on: September 16, 2018, 01:08:58 PM »

River here is up about 2.5 feet (.76m). This is a wind-driven tide, not rain.

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