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Brave Search Engine Preview - SEJ
« on: June 17, 2021, 01:44:08 PM »
Sneak Preview of Brave Search – A Challenger to Google

https://www.searchenginejournal.com/sneak-preview-of-brave-search-a-challenger-to-google/410680/?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twitter-auto-publish#close

It appears Brave is building it's own index.  However, you have the option of using Google backfill, somehow blended with Brave's results.  Interesting.

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Re: Brave Search Engine Preview - SEJ
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2021, 12:25:38 PM »
I've got access to the beta. Couldn't find anything where Google wasn't the results - though they were slightly re-ordered.

Hopefully they do build their own index. They have a link to "also search" on Mojeek, which is great of them.

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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2021, 01:57:44 PM »
I found this from March on Wired:

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Eich says Brave isn’t starting its search engine or index from scratch and won’t be using indexes from Bing or other tech firms. Instead Brave has purchased Tailcat, an offshoot of German search engine Cliqz, which was owned by Hubert Burda Media and closed down last year. The purchase includes an index of the web that’s been created by Tailcat and the technology that powers it. Eich says that some users will be given the ability to opt-in to anonymous data collection to help fine-tune search results.

“What Tailcat does is it looks at a query log and a click log anonymously,” Eich says. “These allow it to build an index, which Tailcat has done and already did at Cliqz, and it's getting bigger.” He admits that the index will not be anywhere near as deep as Google’s but that the top results it surfaces are largely the same.

https://www.wired.com/story/privacy-first-browser-brave-launching-search-engine/

I tried Cliqz when it was out.  I was not impressed and it looked like they were copying Google's listings for page 1.

So the index is only going to be like 1st page SERP results for popular terms.  Shallow.  They definitely need backfill and I don't blame them for not using Bing for backfill because every man and his dog are using Bing.

I don't have a demographic on who uses Brave browser, but I can't see an index that shallow flying for anybody but newbies.  Plus there is the question of how long can they afford Google backfill and or how long will G provide it?

It is decent of them to provide a Mojeek link.

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Re: Brave Search Engine Preview - SEJ
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2021, 04:56:16 PM »
Now live to the public https://search.brave.com/

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Re: Brave Search Engine Preview - SEJ
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2021, 05:32:27 PM »
> public

Hard to tell where Brave's index ends and Google backfill begins.  I'm pretty sure on obscure searches I'm getting only Google.

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Re: Brave Search Engine Preview - SEJ
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2021, 10:22:47 AM »
Twitter:  Tuxphones is wary of the whole Brave setup including search.

https://twitter.com/tuxphones/status/1407593158880501763

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Re: Brave Search Engine Preview - SEJ
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2021, 10:32:15 PM »
"Brave Search doesn't have any ads now, but there are plans for both a free, ad-supported tier and a paid, ad-free tier. For the former, Brave will enable BAT revenue share as it's done for Brave ads."

Brave made a search engine you won't use
https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/06/23/you-can-now-try-braves-privacy-focused-google-search-alternative/

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Re: Brave Search Engine Preview - SEJ
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2021, 05:35:42 PM »
I finally did a few searches in Brave and the results were good. Nothing too obscure, but nothing too mainstream either. Some typos for good measure and it handled them fine.