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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2023, 10:27:39 PM »
Yeah, it is not always easy to get the wording just right, and sometimes it will choke on itself.  With some trial and error I have been getting nice results -- at least for a starting point to modify.

Here is an example of what I've been giving it:
Create a PHP script that will access a SQLite database named "data.db" using PDO. The script should automatically retrieve the table name from the "sqlite_master" table.   It should then retrieve all entries where the "Bid" field is not empty and display them in a sortable table, showing only 100 entries at a time.  Add links at the top of the table to sort each column by high or low, and ensure that the script can handle special characters in the keys that may cause issues with the sorting links. Highlight the selected variable in blue when sorting.  Adds links to paginate the table. Only use PHP for sorting and add the links at the bottom of the page.  Do not add any CSS.


I have done lots of variations on this.  It will crap out if it is given too much code instructions to digest.  You will have better luck asking for smaller scripts.

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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2023, 12:05:46 AM »
Holy crap! I just plugged that in. Not only does it spit out a lot of code that looked like it would work, it explains some of the decisions it has made, like using $_GET variables to pass the sort criterion and returning only 100 results at a time and using pagination.

That is incredible.

I just tried this
"create a wordpress theme function that will return the 10 most recent posts in alphabetical order by title and list them with the title linking to the post itself"

The results looked very serviceable.

Stackoverflow completely changed the way people program and learn to program. This takes it to another level, though it lacks the back and forth discussion about the merits and demerits of a given solution. Still, I bet Atwood and Spolsky are pretty happy with their $1.8 billion sale to Prosus in June 2021. I can't imagine it will be worth nearly so much in 2031.
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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2023, 12:26:07 AM »
I kinda hate the term disruptive and I think it is overused, but I believe this is going to be hugely disruptive.  We're really in just the initial glimpse of the beginning of what AI is capable of.  I honestly think this is going to devalue intellectual labor very soon (years, not decades).  The political ramifications are there too.  One of my first thoughts is that capitalism isn't going to survive this, at least not in its current form.

As for opportunity, this is like the web in 1996.

>Holy crap!

Right!  Also, keep in mind that it is possible to access the API, which means it can be tapped into by automation scripts. With just a little bit of upfront work you could leverage this and one of those image AIs to make a huge amount of web content,  I'm just thinking like an old SEO too.  I know there are many opportunities I don't see yet.

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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2023, 02:03:25 AM »
I'm trying to think of how I would use this.

Just for fun, I asked an anesthesiologist to send me a softball anesthesiology question. It was a lot more like my experience with philosophical questions. The answer was more or less correct, but the steps it suggested were mostly obvious to me (Q: patient was accidentally given epinephrine, what do you do? A: stop giving epinephrine) and general (consult a cardiologist)

So it's sort of the opposite of code. With code, you have to see the overall picture and then ask ChatGPT to supply the specifics and it does a great job of getting the syntax and API calls right. With anesthesia, it sees the big picture, but doesn't drill down enough to give actionable advice.

I wonder it that's an intentional or unintentional limitation (i.e. maybe it is meant to avoid precise answers for medical questions).

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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2023, 02:13:16 AM »
Okay... like with coding, you have to learn how to ask questions. I'm not an MD, so I'm hampered there, but this is interesting

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What is the proper dosage of epinephrine for a 24 year old male, 165 pounds, going into anaphylaxis from a bee sting?

The proper dosage of epinephrine for an adult male with anaphylaxis from a bee sting is typically 0.3 mg of 1:1000 (1 mg/mL) epinephrine injected intramuscularly (IM) in the mid-outer thigh. However, the actual dosage may vary based on the severity of the anaphylactic reaction, the patient's weight, and other individual factors.

In the case of a 24-year-old male weighing 165 pounds (74.8 kg), the recommended dose of epinephrine would be 0.3 mg. If the patient has a severe anaphylactic reaction or if the initial dose does not result in improvement, the patient may require additional doses, which can be repeated every 5-15 minutes as needed.

It is important to note that epinephrine is a potent medication that can have significant side effects, such as increased heart rate, elevated blood pressure, and anxiety. Therefore, epinephrine should only be administered by a trained healthcare provider in the setting of anaphylaxis, and the patient should be closely monitored for any adverse effects. Additionally, the patient should be evaluated and treated by an allergist or other specialist to determine the cause of the anaphylactic reaction and to develop an appropriate long-term management plan.

I could see that being very useful to, say, a Mars mission where they have a medkit and a doc who is, sadly, incapacitated and can't advise. With the worst-case 40-minute latency the mission physician might be dead before ground control responds, but the chatbot knows the answer.

I could also see it being useful for writing schlocky sci-fi screenplays about, say, a mission to Mars where...

Anyway... thanks for getting me started. Not sure what, if anything, I will ever do with it. But I think it's one of those things where you have to start doing stupid things in order to see what useful/smart things you might want to do.

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« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2023, 02:18:01 AM »
Strangely, probably because I started asking about opiods, it will no longer answer my action movie screenplay research questions

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What is the proper dosage of morphine for a 24 year old male, 165 pounds, who has been shot in the shoulder with an AK 47 round?

I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I am not qualified to provide medical advice, including dosages of medication. Prescribing medication is a complex process that takes into account many factors, including the patient's medical history, current condition, and other medications they may be taking.

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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2023, 07:17:22 PM »
Apparently there are multiple engines used in ChatGPT.

https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-3

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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2023, 08:08:20 PM »
Video - OpenAI Codex Live Demo
OpenAI Codex is an AI that translates natural language to code.

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« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2023, 09:45:00 PM »
Ah, that's interesting.

So if there was a medical-specific AI, maybe the results would be similar quality. Or maybe it's more like self-driving: the real world is messy and the edge cases are numerous and the tolerance for small errors by machines is low.

I've heard one AI researcher on the Ezra Klein show say is that the current model that's in vogue (essentially LLM - large language model) is capped in what it can do. He thinks other approaches have great potential and the problem now is that the LLM approach is sucking all the money out of the room. Similar to the AC/DC debate between Edison and Tesla.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/06/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-gary-marcus.html

None of which gets to what *I* can be doing with this.

>>disruptive

Yes, overused, but I think this will likely be a case where it is genuinely true.

In 1998, when I first started teaching my paleography course, I told students that they would be the last generation who would need to learn this because pattern recognition and natural-language recognition would take care of it in 20 years. They laughed and thought surely I must be wrong. And obviously I *was* wrong, at least with respect to the timing.

When I make that prediction to students today, they think that surely I must be right. It seems obvious to them that in 20 years there is a good chance that it will be possible to take a picture of a document with inscrutable writing and have your AI spit out a transcript in minutes.

I think, though I'm not sure, we're in a period of exponentially expanding capability. It feels like a doubling per year right now. Which means that if we've seen slow progress over 20 years toward a problem and we've finally gotten halfway there, the solution comes next year, not in another 20 years. That's the part that's hard to wrap the mind around.

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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2023, 10:35:29 AM »
AI Search Is a Disaster
Microsoft and Google believe chatbots will change search forever. So far, there’s no reason to believe the hype.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/02/google-microsoft-search-engine-chatbots-unreliability/673081/

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« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2023, 04:23:30 PM »
Bucky, if you have time, take a listen to the podcast I linked in the previous post. Gary Marcus is a top AI researcher who has been in the field for a long time and he thinks the models used in the Bing AI are a dead end precisely because of the reliability/trustworthiness question.

His opinion is that the approach they are using will never solve that problem. It will get better and better at bullshit (he uses the word "pastiche") but never truly get better at reliability.

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« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2023, 06:47:21 PM »
>coding, you have to learn how to ask questions

I have seen headline after headline saying that success depended on the prompts.

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« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2023, 09:22:59 PM »
>So far, there’s no reason to believe the hype.


I don't think that's the golden application of AI, it is just what is getting the most $/attention at the moment.  You should spend some time in ChatGPT and query it in different ways.

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« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2023, 08:18:27 PM »
>>the golden application of AI

What do you think *is* the golden application?

Some that come to mind
 - medical diagnosis - smart systems were shown years ago to outperform humans even without machine learning

 - other medical applications - we've already seen AIs outperform humans for reading imaging.

 - biology - protein folding problems were recently solved by AI that were previously unsolvable. The first sequencing of a human genome took several years and cost billions of dollars. Now you can have it done in a couple days by mail with 23andme. AI brings potential improvements like that for protenomics

 - lots of engineering problems and simulations.

Oh, and of course, advertising and porn and warfare. There is no technology of note that does not end up contributing to those.

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« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2023, 08:35:23 PM »
>What do you think *is* the golden application?

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