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Adam C

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Re: Google killing referral data via SSL
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2012, 04:07:56 PM »
travel only
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Adam C

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Re: Google killing referral data via SSL
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2012, 05:05:51 PM »
thanks.  Only 3+ years late ;)
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Re: Google killing referral data via SSL
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2012, 06:54:33 PM »
Jason, he sent you a PM to tell you, and everything...
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Re: Google killing referral data via SSL
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2012, 04:07:08 PM »
Firefox 14.01 just out. Firefox G searches are now SSL by default.
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Re: Google killing referral data via SSL
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2012, 04:25:44 PM »
I swear I read somewhere that if the searcher gets taken to a https page then you can see the referrer data.
e.g. https -> https (works)
https -> http (doesn't)

Is that right or did I dream that?
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Re: Google killing referral data via SSL
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2012, 04:47:28 PM »
Quote from: Chunkford on July 17, 2012, 04:25:44 PM
I swear I read somewhere that if the searcher gets taken to a https page then you can see the referrer data.
e.g. https -> https (works)
https -> http (doesn't)

Is that right or did I dream that?

Yep that's correct, Jason has a post on here somewhere that broke down all the permutations of how you can/can't get referral data but that's the main gist of it.
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Re: Google killing referral data via SSL
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2012, 08:08:44 PM »
Between this and the ever increasing use of sample data analytics is starting to get a bit flakey
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Re: Google killing referral data via SSL
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2012, 09:38:11 PM »
Quote from: BoL on July 17, 2012, 04:47:28 PM
Quote from: Chunkford on July 17, 2012, 04:25:44 PM
I swear I read somewhere that if the searcher gets taken to a https page then you can see the referrer data.
e.g. https -> https (works)
https -> http (doesn't)

Is that right or did I dream that?

Yep that's correct, Jason has a post on here somewhere that broke down all the permutations of how you can/can't get referral data but that's the main gist of it.

So if we go 100% ssl we get our data back? That seems too easy
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BoL

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Re: Google killing referral data via SSL
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2012, 10:24:55 PM »
Seems to be that way

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_referer
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If a website is accessed from a HTTP Secure (HTTPS) connection and a link points to anywhere except another secure location, then the referer field is not sent.[6] (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-15.1.3)

An interesting sentence after that regarding HTML 5.

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The upcoming standard HTML5 will support the attribute/value rel = "noreferrer" in order to instruct the user agent not to send a referer.[7]
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Re: Google killing referral data via SSL
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2012, 01:30:03 PM »
> So if we go 100% ssl we get our data back? That seems too easy

It is too easy

SSL -> SSL sends referer - that isn't the issue.

G purposely fakes the referer by replacing the real search referal URL with  fake URL. Hence the "Not provided" issue
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Re: Google killing referral data via SSL
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2012, 04:23:47 PM »
I thought that was the case. Would have been kicking myself for weeks if I'd missed that.
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Re: Google killing referral data via SSL
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2012, 05:15:13 PM »
It could be possible to workout the entry keyword from [secure search] keywords.  G is still giving the rankings for the secured search keywords, so if you know how you're ranking for certain keywords you can make a pretty good educated guess.  No programs doing this yet though that I know of.
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Re: Google killing referral data via SSL
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2012, 03:58:53 PM »
They are providing the keywords to the paid advertisers (PPC) but not to the organic traffic. It's unfair but we get used to that.
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