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Testing occidental search engines on site - Jack Yan
« on: May 05, 2024, 09:05:35 AM »
Testing occidental search engines on site: again: Mojeek, Bing more normal

https://jackyan.com/blog/2024/05/testing-occidental-search-engines-on-site-again-mojeek-bing-more-normal/

I find the observation that Google prefers HTML pages vs. php, interesting.

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Re: Testing occidental search engines on site - Jack Yan
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2024, 11:55:51 AM »
"Use Mojeek if you want newer content without distinction between static and dynamically created pages."

GMX ??  I've missed this one.  Where's the money in licensing G?

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Re: Testing occidental search engines on site - Jack Yan
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2024, 12:45:42 PM »
>GMX

I knew GMX used Google, what it didn't know was there was a difference in final results.  Interesting.

I have no idea how they make money, ads or subscriptions?  They may have paid tier of email.  I think GMX was on the EU choose a search engine screen for new Android devices in the EU.

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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2024, 04:06:45 PM »
In this case, it seems the static/dynamic is more a proxy for age than an insight into whether a particular method of serving pages matters.

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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2024, 07:39:26 PM »
>php

I had noticed that very, very few php pages surfaced in my deep serps now.

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Re: Testing occidental search engines on site - Jack Yan
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2024, 02:19:29 AM »
How do you know that?

I mean, how do you know which pages are PHP pages?

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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2024, 03:26:52 AM »
just those that show the extension, often an index.php page.

http://68k.news/index.php?loc=US

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Re: Testing occidental search engines on site - Jack Yan
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2024, 05:05:31 PM »
Another theory there: when you look at pages with a .PHP extension, you are selecting for sites where they donít know or canít be bothered to use mod_rewrite or nginx config. 

That tells you something about the type of site. In general, I would say it means the site is likely either old or not built by professionals, probably both since most non-professionals will be using WP.

It also means that no PHP site built with WP, Drupal, etc gets included in the analysis and that covers some very big sites like Weather.com and some big media sites.

semi-related story: back when coopster, jatar_k and I were PHP mods on wmw, Adam (I think) had a boss who went to some conference where someone (no doubt a Sun rep) said that the best tech that all websites should use was Java Server Pages, which was the wave of the future. So the boss comes back and says that to future proof the site and be on the bleeding edge of web tech, the whole site needed to be converted to JSP.

After some gnashing of teeth and rending of garments on the team about the colossal amount of work for no useful purpose, Adam went in, made a few changes to the rewrite config and few changes to how links were rendered and made every page on the site a .jsp page. They told the boss that the team had worked through the weekend and the site was ready to go. The boss was pleased to know they were now on the latest tech and fully future-proofed.