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advice please....
« on: December 13, 2010, 06:38:00 PM »
One of my elfs said to me today:

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One thing where is my Christmas gift?

I nearly went straight back with :

Why, where is mine?

Where I come from you do not ask for gifts.....   I appreciate elsewhere might be different.  It really irked me though. 


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Re: advice please....
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2010, 06:43:43 PM »
I agree with you... I'm grateful for any gifts given to me, to expect them is a bit rich. No point in gifting if it's considered automatic.

If the elf was under 13 years old I'd let them off with the expectation.

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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2010, 06:52:38 PM »
If they are very good or if you are working them cheap, why not spoil them? It's amazing what loyalty you can get if you spend a few squids on them.

IMHO

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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2010, 06:53:26 PM »
Get or ask for a photo of said elf for some reason.

Then send an elf yourself e-card for Christmas, using their photo.

http://www.elfyourself.com/

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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2010, 07:01:56 PM »
Well, one of us used to give out cool widgets instead of bonuses, as a way saving some money, because a bonus is never enough... but, say, an ipod, is... well, cool.... a nice gift, if you get me. And nice and thoughtful gifts are always in good taste... and if that is the standard, well, then, that is the standard. Many places give out a turkey, etc. but I do think employers should show some sort of appreciation.  I think it is warranted.

But asking for a present is not in good taste.

Although you may want to ask yourself, had you already purchased said elf a present, would you still have wondered where yours was? Or would you have come up with a slightly different reply? The kneejerk reaction sometimes sheds a little light into darker corners of motivations... not saying anyone's were wrong, just saying, a little hypersensitivity can sometimes cloud the issue.

Are you looking for me to tell you the person was rude, in multiple cultures? If so, then, yes.  But that shouldn't make you happy enough not to give them anything.  In fact, I would go so far as to guess that remark was intended to p##s you off, by someone that is slightly passive aggressive but not really brilliant... because it did lead you to the 'right question'.... eventually. But they didn't exactly drop you off there feeling that generous.  If they were brighter, they might be better at manipulating you not only to the right conclusion, but so that you ended up happy you reached it once you arrived at it... and if they were really good, they would have planted the seed it was your idea all along... which would set them up for the best possible outcome.

But apparently the elf isn't all that bright... so f### him, and give him a $20 gift card to Applebees:)



« Last Edit: December 13, 2010, 07:12:25 PM by dogboy »

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Re: advice please....
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2010, 07:04:22 PM »
Send them $100 and they'll love you for the rest of 2011.

Always nice to know you're appreciated imo.

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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2010, 07:11:51 PM »
considering its way too early to be wondering where your gift is anyway, are you sure they weren't making a joke which didn't translate because of lack of use of a smiley?


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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2010, 07:22:36 PM »
she need to be taken into a secluded place and shot as its troublemakers like this one what upset the whole apple cart for the rest of them as they are not paid to think they are paid to do

in fact the thought behind wanting a gift at this time of year has been already been paid for in your time so its actually robbing you right under your nose, if you wait a while a trigger happy yank will come by who may do the job for you ;)
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Re: advice please....
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2010, 07:24:21 PM »
I should have said, this Elf is in his late teens, and is in India.  Culturally that might make a difference.

I am indeed inclined to ignore him, and then send him $100 on Christmas day.  Can you time payments like that/?  Never tried.  

Just this asking...  doesn't go down well in my part of the world.  

A Turkey to India.... like the idea :)  Christmas pud might be easier.

http://www.elfyourself.com/  ha ha!

Funny I never tell them they are elfs, but valued members of the team. 4eyes coined the phrase for me.

Thanks for ALL the insight.

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Re: advice please....
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2010, 07:27:41 PM »
>A Turkey to India

Nah, steak instead.

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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2010, 07:40:35 PM »
We have several Indians working for us, so far they've never asked for any gift.

My answer would be "where was my gift for Diwali?" then sack/shoot em  :P

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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2010, 08:06:57 PM »
>>is in India

I was going to ask where this is. In Latin American countries, Singapore and the Philippines the "thirteenth month" payment is required or expected

Don't know about India, but it seems like there is some expecation of bonus based on teh 1965 Bonus Act or some such thing

http://www.tax4india.com/indian-laws/labour-law/payment-of-bonus/payment-of-bonus-2.html

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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2010, 09:04:14 PM »
>a trigger happy yank will come by who may do the job for you
my only issue is all this talk about 'seclusion'...just tell me in meters and wind speed and let me work out the details;D

>india
ah, can't say then...

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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2010, 09:25:04 PM »
>$100 and they'll love you for the rest of 2011.
wow, in Florida, that only gets you a drink and a 10 minute lap dance:)

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Re: advice please....
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2010, 05:30:56 PM »
Unless he's really good, FIRE HIM!