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Re: advice please....
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2010, 02:27:08 PM »
Rumbas,
I agree with you.

One of my team (been working 4 years for me on a contract basis) I have loaned to her to buy a PC, I pay most up front, (as the trust has to work both ways), and I cannot expect them to take no pay for a month.  (Anyone in the UK has to cope with being paid after the event as that is the custom)

....one disappeared for 2 weeks, but when back, no problem, she caught up....

But this one, (part f the story I omitted, as It adds bias to the question I wanted to ask) had just disappeared for 6 days, and then comes back with that question.

It smacks of:
"What else can I get out of this Guy, he seems a soft touch"  

Maybe it is a misunderstanding, there is room for that still.  Just I doubt it :(  Hope so
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« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2010, 02:33:07 PM »
Ah, but the Vikings have no work.... :(

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Rumbas, surely you could have waited until after Christmas :)
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« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2010, 02:37:12 PM »
It's a tricky one, isn't it? I think it comes down to a cost / benefit thing. If you pay once, he'll expect it every year, so that becomes a structural cost of employing him, and potentially anyone else he tells. There is also the "emotional cost" of your irked status, which is hard to put a montary value on.

On the plus side, if you do pay, you may be securing a happy, productive worker. If the quality of his work is good enough, it might be worth taking the financial hit, swallowing the irked feelings, and thinking of it as a cost of business.

A lot also depends on your sense of the motivation here. If he's a good, hard worker asking for a reward for a job well done, I'd be inclined to reward him. If he's just trying to see if he can get the stupid Westener to cough up a bit of cash for Christmas, cut your losses and dump him. In that case, it's clear that he sees your relationship in terms of what he can get from you, rather than what value he can provide for you, and it's likely an early signal of impending shoddiness. Since he has asked, it's clear he thinks he is entitled to a bonus. If you disappoint that sense of entitilement (deserved or not), you've got a disgruntled employee

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>> It smacks of:
>> "What else can I get out of this Guy, he seems a soft touch"

Yeah, might be inclined to get rid then. Sounds like it's the tip of an iceberg, change course whilst ye may

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Re: advice please....
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2010, 06:38:17 PM »
>So,now what you gift me?

Wow.

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« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2010, 06:58:20 PM »
Get the manual written so you cannot be held to ransom in the future
. Get him to write it. Give him the push when done.

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« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2010, 07:40:14 PM »
tell you what, save yourself the stress, give me the $100 and I'll sack him for you.

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« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2010, 08:52:12 PM »

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« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2010, 07:15:17 PM »
Perhaps this quotation is better here than in the quotations thread:
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   If it s business of consequence, do it yourself"
    Richard Harris Barham, 1788-1845

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Re: advice please....
« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2010, 10:33:26 PM »
>>If it s business of consequence, do it yourself

And never have a life?

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« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2010, 08:44:26 PM »
Thats why we have elves, and fairies.  Jane is out fairy.  She comes in on Fri, and after 4 hours the place is gleaming again. 

There would be no play time without elves and fairies.
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« Reply #40 on: December 20, 2010, 02:11:46 PM »
'business of consequence' perhaps means something different to me than it does to others.

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« Reply #41 on: December 20, 2010, 02:29:29 PM »
No your right, just teasing really.

If its important do it yourself.  I'm not letting a link builder near anything that important :)
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Re: advice please....
« Reply #42 on: December 21, 2010, 02:27:22 PM »
Ok, had to let the guy go today. Sad really, but it's either his or my money.

Would rather hire people than letting them off, but "it's business" as he said.

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Re: advice please....
« Reply #43 on: December 21, 2010, 02:46:08 PM »
Thanks Jason.

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« Reply #44 on: December 21, 2010, 03:05:47 PM »
Oh dear, sorry to hear that. Good luck in 2011 Rumbas
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