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Americans - tomorrow is Veteran's Day
« on: November 10, 2019, 05:14:08 PM »
Americans - it's Veteran's Day tomorrow. I am always troubled on this day by how little attention is paid to the people *still* fighting in our War on Terror.

As stated in a recent article in Time Magazine: "In the run-up to the 2018 midterm elections, 42% of Americans didnít know whether we were still at war in Afghanistan."

If you have 15 minutes this Veteran's Day, please read this article:

https://time.com/5696950/bring-back-the-draft/

It is a plea by a veteran and a father to bring back the draft. Regardless of how you feel on that issue, I think it is worth reading for his perspective on fighting a war in which the soldiers are mostly ignored and the society at large is asked to make absolutely no sacrifice whatsoever. Since he has an eloquence and a moral authority on the subject that I do not have, I will not attempt to summarize and just say that reading this article will be worth your time.

Two of my friends who were Marines in Iraq complain that most people they talk to do not have a single friend or family member who served in this war and, therefore, hardly ever think about the people who have been sent there.

And just a few other thoughts for you on this Veteran's Day.

 - 2.77 million Americans have served in Afghanistan and Iraq in the War on Terror as of early 2018.
 https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2018/03/20/2-77-million-service-members-have-served-on-5-4-million-deployments-since-911-infographic/#6eefd9e150db
 
 That is more than the 2,709,918 Americans who served in Vietnam.

 - This month marks the 18th year of this war. That means that some of those fighting there were not even born with the war started. They literally inherited this war. That is unprecedented in American history. As long as the Vietnam War was, if you were born when US involvement began, you were 14 when it ended.

 - Yesterday was the 30th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall. In other words, the interval between the start of the war and now is 50% longer than the interval between the fall of the wall and the start of the war. If you were born when the Berlin Wall fell, you were 12 when we went to war in Afghanistan and then Iraq. If you were born when we went to war, you are 18 now.

Sorry if this is "political," but I think it is shameful that we ask so much of people and pay so little attention to them.
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Re: Americans - tomorrow is Veteran's Day
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2019, 08:21:00 PM »
In Canada, we call Nov. 11 "Remembrance Day".

Remembrance Day in Canada is a Very Big Deal. There will be services of remembrance in communities across the country, always starting at eleven o'clock. There will be flags, solemn speeches, solemn music, prayers, and laying of wreaths. A bugle will play, there will be two minutes of silence ... two full minutes, not just "a moment of silence" ... and some will shed tears.

One of our traditions is to wear little red poppies sold by the Royal Canadian Legion. One year PubCon happened to include Nov. 11, and it was a meaningful thing for Canadians in the crowd to spot each other wearing poppies. It was a planned act, not an impulse; they'd have had to bring their poppies from home when they packed.

Every Canadian school child knows this poem, written during the First World War by Canadian physician Lieutenant-Colonel John McCrae.

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
  That mark our place; and in the sky
  The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
  Loved and were loved, and now we lie
      In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
  The torch; be yours to hold it high.
  If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
      In Flanders fields.


We remember.



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Re: Americans - tomorrow is Veteran's Day
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2019, 12:18:11 PM »
Remember them.
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Re: Americans - tomorrow is Veteran's Day
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2019, 04:42:33 AM »
>>In Flanders fields the poppies blow

The BBC has a podcast called The Best of Natural History Radio and they've had some great episodes lately on relatively common plants and animals: chicken, ferns, bees.

And poppies. Poppies are an introduced species in northern Europe. They followed agriculture about 5,000 to 7,000 years ago. They are annuals whose seed remain fertile for 50 years or more, until the cornfield is tilled, without intense pesticide, to grow up north. Thus the name "corn poppy," and thus the reason it and many other "agricultural weeds" like poppies and marigold are disappearing in Britain (less agriculture, more pesticides).

But you can also till soils with bombs. So, the year after the shelling stopped, in Flanders field the poppies blew.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07tz9g6
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Re: Americans - tomorrow is Veteran's Day
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2019, 11:55:57 PM »
"The Mobile Infantry made me the man I am today." -- Starship Troopers.