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http://www.wired.co.uk/article/chinese-government-social-credit-score-privacy-invasion

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Imagine a world where many of your daily activities were constantly monitored and evaluated: what you buy at the shops and online; where you are at any given time; who your friends are and how you interact with them; how many hours you spend watching content or playing video games; and what bills and taxes you pay (or not).


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For now, technically, participating in China's Citizen Scores is voluntary. But by 2020 it will be mandatory. The behaviour of every single citizen and legal person (which includes every company or other entity)in China will be rated and ranked, whether they like it or not.

so many nuggets, but SEO for social score:

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Sesame Credit already offers tips to help individuals improve their ranking, including warning about the downsides of friending someone who has a low score.
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Re: Big data meets Big Brother as China moves to rate its citizens
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2018, 07:06:37 AM »
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"As a Chinese person, knowing that everything I do online is being tracked, would I rather be aware of the details of what is being monitored and use this information to teach myself how to abide by the rules?" says Rasul Majid, a Chinese blogger based in Shanghai who writes about behavioural design and gaming psychology. "Or would I rather live in ignorance and hope/wish/dream that personal privacy still exists and that our ruling bodies respect us enough not to take advantage?" Put simply, Majid thinks the system gives him a tiny bit more control over his data.
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Re: Big data meets Big Brother as China moves to rate its citizens
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2018, 07:18:09 AM »
Imagine the anomalies and the underground economy this is going to create as people try to game their score.

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Re: Big data meets Big Brother as China moves to rate its citizens
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2018, 03:20:00 PM »
I mentioned that in this thread, where RC posted all manner of other depressing things about China
http://th3core.com/talk/hardware-technology/china's-vidnet-locates-a-reporter-in-7-minutes/15/

Some of the scariest stuff I've read.

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Re: Big data meets Big Brother as China moves to rate its citizens
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2018, 03:21:41 PM »
Ah missed your post Tom. I get the rational... why they like it, but it is going to go seriously wrong.  imho.
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Re: Big data meets Big Brother as China moves to rate its citizens
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2018, 04:27:49 PM »
This is exactly the system all govs want, but non-Chinese frogs need to be boiled slowly.
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Re: Big data meets Big Brother as China moves to rate its citizens
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2018, 05:36:52 PM »
This is exactly the system all govs want.

And in most cases, for the most noble of reasons.*

I might have said in the other thread, but at least thought, that traditionally a large portion of our freedoms in the world (some places more than others) were the result not of laws and good people in government, but the inability to do otherwise due to lack of means. As we acquire the means, having good laws and good people becomes more important and our freedoms become harder to sustain.

Think about the world if the Stasi or the Inquisition or the House Un-American Activities Committee had had the means that China is making available today. Very scary.

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*added - I mean that with NO irony. They literally want it in order to promote safety, stability, improve defense and so forth in most cases. It just won't play out that way. Emile Cioran said he prefers criminals to saints, because criminals only kill people one at a time, but saints kill them by the millions (by "saints" he means people with causes, the Maos, Stalins, Hitlers of the world).
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Re: Big data meets Big Brother as China moves to rate its citizens
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2018, 04:01:47 PM »
>means

Chinese man caught by facial recognition at pop concert

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43751276