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Re: Core Commit to Exercise 2014 Round 3: May 19 - July 20
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2014, 02:50:52 PM »
Congrats Rupert! Sounds fun.

1/5 last week, sickness. Irritating I'm best shape of my life, or close, but still get sick. pffft

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Re: Core Commit to Exercise 2014 Round 3: May 19 - July 20
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2014, 03:25:42 PM »
Thx ! Sounds dreadful!
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Re: Core Commit to Exercise 2014 Round 3: May 19 - July 20
« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2014, 03:40:01 PM »
>>still get sick

Overtraining? Do you track your morning rest pulse at all? Once over the sickness and back to baseline, take a couple days off and take your pulse each morning to establish a baseline waking rest pulse. Then resume your normal schedule. If the waking rest pulse starts to rise, you're likely overtraining as it should normally stay the same or drop as you exercise more.

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Re: Core Commit to Exercise 2014 Round 3: May 19 - July 20
« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2014, 03:55:51 PM »
I get sick a lot less than I use to, but I believe it is because of cumulative germ exposure from having four kids rather than my state of fitness.  Along the lines of what Ergophobe said, I recall reading somewhere that top athletes are on the verge of colds all the time because they over-stress their body.

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Re: Core Commit to Exercise 2014 Round 3: May 19 - July 20
« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2014, 04:46:49 PM »
Not overtraining this time, I've been on vacation for roughly 2 weeks, but that may have contributed with the small amount of drinking, gluttony and whatnot.

I need to get a heart rate monitor, I don't have one and the cardio equipment I like doesn't have it either.

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Re: Core Commit to Exercise 2014 Round 3: May 19 - July 20
« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2014, 10:11:55 PM »
Honestly, I have a heart rate monitor (maybe two in fact) and I pretty much never use it. It's not that generally useful in my opinion.

Of course some elite athletes use them a lot, but as a non-elite athlete, I don't feel like there's a lot of benefit.

You can, for example, use a heart rate monitor to try to figure out what your max heart rate is for a given activity which can only really be determined empirically (The "225 minus your age" formulae were developed to keep recovering heart attack patients from getting into trouble and don't really mean all that much, not to mention that max heart rate varies with activity so, for example, max HR tends to be higher running than biking and higher biking than swimming).

You can then use max HR  to estimate your lactate threshold without paying for a VO2max/lactate threshold lab test. In trained runners (say college athletes and above), lactate threshold usually is at 92% of max HR, but who knows where it is for guys like us? For us perceived exertion is probably pretty good lactate threshold training. If you're breathing hard, your legs have minor burn and you couldn't carry on a conversation, you're probably pretty much there.

Also all that stuff about "fat burning zone" they used to say back in the 1980s is mostly garbage. Not entirely garbage, but it does not take into account EPOC, which often accounts for most calories burned as a result of exercise. So though in theory it is the zone in which your body is burning fat *during* exercise, it's not the zone that burns the most fat as a result of exercise. The main reason to stay in the fat burning zone is because you will be exercising for more than 2-3 hours, at which point glycogen stores will be completely gone if you haven't been tapping into your fat reserves consistently. This, by the way, is why elite marathoners don't hit the famous 18-mile wall: they're going so fast they get there before glycogen stores are gone (among other reasons).

But do take your pulse in the morning for a full minute before you get out of bed. For me this is pretty a good indicator of health and fitness. Haven't done it in a while myself, but I know four things that drive up my waking pulse: lack of exercise, lack of sleep, abundance of stress and my wife waking up during and earthquake and jumping on top of me yelling. The contrary tends to drive it down.

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Re: Core Commit to Exercise 2014 Round 3: May 19 - July 20
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2014, 06:42:39 AM »
>cumulative germ exposure from having four kids rather than my state of fitness

I agree. I've  never been as sick as when our 3rd one started in in kindergarden recently. It's absolutely amazing the sh## she brings home to the rest of us. Ugh.

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Re: Core Commit to Exercise 2014 Round 3: May 19 - July 20
« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2014, 01:54:48 PM »
Yeah heartrate monitor is more a luxury than a necessity. I wanted one primarily when I was getting back in the gym, being older and often pushing myself too hard.

I've found I can judge fairly well where I am by distance and calories burned when on the elliptical for the same time frame. Playing sports, with regular rest intervals, I often get mentally fatigued before physically tiring out.

oh and 3/5 last week, getting back to normal.

gym, vball, motox 1x each.

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Re: Core Commit to Exercise 2014 Round 3: May 19 - July 20
« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2014, 03:01:46 PM »
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getting back to normal.
  glad to hear it.

Managed to veg out. 1/5 too knackered. Got beaten hollow in my 1 game of squash.

Not counting a 500m swim with daughter, as we pretty much floated round.  It was fun.

Starting again, but no big goal yet, except a 1.5 miler with said daughter in sept. Need to book another event.
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Re: Core Commit to Exercise 2014 Round 3: May 19 - July 20
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2014, 12:36:28 AM »
Week 7 - 4/4
And managed to celebrate the 4th and go to a wedding and still eat sensibly -- which is victory for me.

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Re: Core Commit to Exercise 2014 Round 3: May 19 - July 20
« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2014, 07:37:34 AM »
Week 7 - 2/4

>still eat sensibly -- which is victory for me

Would be for me too. Well done.

Taking 3 weeks off from Friday, 1 week in Greec, Crete with the in-laws, 2 weeks in our summer house afterwards. Phew, will need to control myself a bit.

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Re: Core Commit to Exercise 2014 Round 3: May 19 - July 20
« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2014, 10:47:44 AM »
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Phew, will need to control myself a bit.

I have a picture in my head of a cold beer, the hot sun and you licking you lips....  I need to get it out of my head :)
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Re: Core Commit to Exercise 2014 Round 3: May 19 - July 20
« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2014, 12:48:59 PM »
>Taking 3 weeks off ... Greec, Crete ... summer house ... will need to control myself a bit.

ha.
haha
HAHAHA.

Good luck with that. :-D

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Re: Core Commit to Exercise 2014 Round 3: May 19 - July 20
« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2014, 02:07:00 PM »
Thanks buddy :)

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Re: Core Commit to Exercise 2014 Round 3: May 19 - July 20
« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2014, 05:44:08 PM »
Did a couple days of rock climbing during the week and hiked 50 miles last weekend with an overnight pack and lots of vertical. Saw what may be the prettiest section of trail in Yosemite.