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Re: Corona Virus - Save Yourselves
« Reply #45 on: February 03, 2020, 02:08:36 AM »
Uh-oh.  This from a US-based manager of pharm shipments.

"The problem is a lot of the drugs come from China, and there are no flights out of China right now."

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Re: Corona Virus - Save Yourselves
« Reply #46 on: February 03, 2020, 08:50:30 AM »
>Seems like VN and CN have some tensions

More towards hate than tension.

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/05/01/402572349/ask-the-vietnamese-about-war-and-they-think-china-not-the-u-s?t=1580719683300

"On the morning of the attack, February 17th, we were sleeping when the Chinese artillery started, then we all ran to our posts," he says. "Some were dressed, others didn't even have time to put their pants on, they just ran to their posts to fight."

Never step to the Vietnamese.

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Re: Corona Virus - Save Yourselves
« Reply #47 on: February 03, 2020, 07:50:03 PM »
University of Hong Kong :

"the number of infections would likely double every six days, peaking in April and May for those places currently dealing with an outbreak, although effective public health measures could bring that rate down."

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Re: Corona Virus - Save Yourselves
« Reply #49 on: February 04, 2020, 01:38:58 PM »
Macau has ordered all casinos to close for the next two weeks as coronavirus confirmed cases and deaths increase in mainland China, according to Bloomberg.
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Re: Corona Virus - Save Yourselves
« Reply #50 on: February 06, 2020, 12:45:20 AM »
>doubles every six days

That's now appearing to be too conservative.

China says death toll hits 563 as confirmed cases top 28,000
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/coronavirus-latest-updates-china-hubei.html

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Re: Corona Virus - Save Yourselves
« Reply #51 on: February 06, 2020, 02:34:19 AM »
No matter how this turns out, we'll need to eat.

I'm continuing to pick up extra groceries and other supplies. I'm going to need some new recipes, too!

I'm also working to get tasks done from my to-do list that would require going out. Get 'em done soon so I can stay in later if need be.

I think of it as practical paranoia.  8)

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« Reply #52 on: February 06, 2020, 12:26:35 PM »
>eat

I saw news photos of grocery stores in Wuhan with empty shelves.

I still have my winter cache of supplies.  I stock up every Fall with canned goods including SPAM.  Plus a freezer full of food.

It has to be rough on those cruise ships that are quarantined.

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Re: Corona Virus - Save Yourselves
« Reply #53 on: February 06, 2020, 04:35:34 PM »
"Tencent may have accidentally leaked real data on Wuhan virus deaths"

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594

"On late Saturday evening (Feb. 1), the Tencent webpage showed confirmed cases of the Wuhan virus in China as standing at 154,023, 10 times the official figure at the time. It listed the number of suspected cases as 79,808, four times the official figure.
The number of cured cases was only 269, well below the official number that day of 300. Most ominously, the death toll listed was 24,589, vastly higher than the 300 officially listed that day.
Moments later, Tencent updated the numbers to reflect the government's "official" numbers that day. Netizens noticed that Tencent has on at least three occasions posted extremely high numbers, only to quickly lower them to government-approved statistics."

Plausible IMO.

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Coronavirus 'kills Chinese whistleblower doctor Li Wenliang'

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51403795

"Dr Li, 34, had noticed seven cases of a virus that he thought looked like Sars - the virus that led to a global epidemic in 2003.

On 30 December he sent a message to fellow doctors in a chat group warning them to wear protective clothing to avoid infection.

Four days later he was summoned to the Public Security Bureau where he was told to sign a letter. In the letter he was accused of "making false comments" that had "severely disturbed the social order".

He was one of eight people who police said were being investigated for "spreading rumours"
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Re: Corona Virus - Save Yourselves
« Reply #54 on: February 06, 2020, 05:27:05 PM »
>Plausible IMO.

Agreed.  If the Tencent figures are used, we're looking at a 16% kill rate.  Most pandemics have been in the 2-3% range.  MERS was the exception at around 35%.

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SARS was around 10%
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Re: Corona Virus - Save Yourselves
« Reply #55 on: February 06, 2020, 07:03:07 PM »
>kill rate

I think its going to be a while until we really know how fatal CV is.  Looks like the virus generally doesn't hit kids as hard.

I don't have much faith in the current leaderships of the world to handle the outbreak properly, so I'm betting it is going to spread through every country eventually.

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« Reply #56 on: February 06, 2020, 09:39:37 PM »
My big worry is if it hits the under developed world like Africa and elsewhere, that just does not have enough medical infrastructure and personnel to handle a pandemic.  It would be terrible for them. 

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Re: Corona Virus - Save Yourselves
« Reply #57 on: February 06, 2020, 11:24:36 PM »
Confirmed Cases by Country/Region

28,094 Mainland China
45 Japan
28 Singapore
25 Thailand
24 Hong Kong
23 South Korea
16 Taiwan
14 Australia
12 Germany
12 US
12 Malaysia
10 Vietnam
10 Macau
6 France
5 Canada
5 United Arab Emirates
3 India
2 Italy
2 Russia
2 Philippines
2 UK
1 Nepal
1 Cambodia
1 Belgium
1 Spain
1 Finland
1 Sweden
1 Sri Lanka

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Re: Corona Virus - Save Yourselves
« Reply #58 on: February 06, 2020, 11:51:52 PM »
U.K. is 3. The news did a 50% increase piece. I laughed

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« Reply #59 on: February 06, 2020, 11:57:04 PM »
Yeah, and I think the US has an additional one.  The web page updates late, IIRC.