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rcjordan

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We open, people die; we close, people die.
« on: February 06, 2021, 09:18:53 PM »
'We open, people die; we close, people die.'
https://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/we-open-people-die-we-close-people-die-covid-surge-leaves-lebanon-no-good-options-1.661305

Without joining the "Laser Beams From Space' crowd, I'm starting to wonder whether general lockdowns have been very effective.  Deep blue California & New York haven't had much better luck than open-for-business Florida.
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Re: Re: Corona Virus - Save Yourselves
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2021, 10:18:47 PM »
We've definitely have had our share of non-compliance and problems in California.

>Deep blue

This is also the land of Devin Nunes.  California is blue the same way Texas is red, meaning there is a sizable percentage of the population that disagrees with the prevailing government.  The big question is: How do you manage people when near 50% of the population doesn't want to comply?
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Re: Re: Corona Virus - Save Yourselves
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2021, 11:27:23 PM »
>> doesn't want to comply

I think a lot of the non-compliance is rooted in sloppy logic and misinformation ... which spread even faster than the virus. People sincerely believe  that they know better than the authorities.

I'm not one to say there's never a time to be a rebel, but fer cryin' out loud, the thing you're rebelling about should actually be true!

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Re: Re: Corona Virus - Save Yourselves
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2021, 06:16:27 PM »
>Deep blue

California had more Trump voters in 2020 than Texas did. Texas had more Biden voters than New York.
https://xkcd.com/2399/

> Devin Nunes

He's actually almost moderate compared to my representative, Tom McClintock or our local supervisor who in public comments has declared Fauci "an enemy of the people," and daily frequents one of the restaurants/bars in town that stays open in violation of state and county orders and where nobody wears a mask.

That said, I think across the spectrum, there is quite a bit of Covid fatigue and, to the main point, about general lockdowns, I think it's just to ask of a lot of people. For some it's easy because of our financial situations, the nature of our work, the nature of our marriage/family life, the nature of our personalities. But for single extroverts or people in unhappy families who have to leave the house in order to work to pay the bills, the lockdown is brutal.

And we have local landmark businesses that have folded and more on the verge of it. If this (by which I mean not just Covid, but in our case fires and windstorms and blizzards) goes on for another year, the community will be hollowed out.
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