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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: rcjordan on July 27, 2020, 01:59:30 PM

Title: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on July 27, 2020, 01:59:30 PM
Sports & Tourism seem to be the big pandemic drivers this summer.  Baseball is trying to reopen amid a big dose of denial.

Eight Marlins Players, Two Coaches Test Positive For COVID-19; Tonight's Game Canceled
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/07/eight-marlins-players-two-coaches-test-positive-for-covid-19-tonights-game-canceled.html
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on July 27, 2020, 11:15:48 PM
Second COVID-19 wave forces new travel curbs around the globe - Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus/second-covid-19-wave-forces-new-travel-curbs-around-the-globe-idUSKCN24S0HH
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on July 28, 2020, 08:15:04 PM
I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

Miami Marlins season on hold after 17 positive cases of COVID-19
https://www.insider.com/miami-marlins-season-pause-covid-19-2020-7
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: DrCool on July 29, 2020, 04:12:23 PM
I think the NBA and NHL have the right plan in place with their "bubble". Whether the players stay within the bubble is another story. So far it seems like the bubbles are working and there aren't a ton of positives coming from those leagues.

I think the NFL is going to keep a very close eye on what happens with MLB. The Marlins having an outbreak this early in the season could be very telling. If they can contain it and get it under control without it spreading to other teams that could be encouraging for the rest of the season and for the NFL teams.

The protocols the NFL has in place seem to be pretty solid with their testing, cleaning, tracking, etc. I would still definitely say its doubtful they will finish the season.

College football is going to be a total train wreck if they go forward with it.
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on July 30, 2020, 12:26:13 AM
Those 'semi-pro' junior baseball travel teams have been playing all summer.  I can only guess how many cases they've spread.
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on July 30, 2020, 07:23:32 PM
Two Phillies staff members test positive for COVID-19, shutting down Citizens Bank Park
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2020/07/30/phillies-staff-coronavirus-covid-19-citizens-bank-park/5546358002/
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on July 31, 2020, 01:28:53 AM
>college train wreck

Entire College Team Isolated
https://www.newser.com/story/294321/rutgers-football-shut-down.html
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: DrCool on July 31, 2020, 04:54:50 AM
Bills rookies sent home after positive coronavirus tests

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29565983/bills-rookies-sent-home-positive-coronavirus-tests-source-says
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on August 02, 2020, 12:13:59 PM
“Our businesses have 12 weeks to make money to survive the rest of the year,” says Lauren Weaver, executive director of the Bethany-Fenwick Chamber of Commerce, noting that sales for the town’s 75 or so beach-district merchants are down 40% to 70% compared with a year ago. “A lot of them are not going to survive.”

Summer 2020: Coronavirus leaves beach towns worried they won’t survive
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/money/2020/07/27/coronavirus-effect-businesses-at-summer-haven-try-to-survive-season/5484792002/
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on August 02, 2020, 09:21:22 PM
No games in Milwaukee after 4 more Cardinals personnel test positive for COVID-19, Detroit series shifted

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/birdland/no-games-in-milwaukee-after-4-more-cardinals-personnel-test-positive-for-covid-19-detroit/article_12a2a5d7-35c0-5705-924e-2d64a5cb2e71.html
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on August 03, 2020, 03:09:30 AM
Two cruise ships hit by coronavirus weeks after industry restarts
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/03/two-cruise-ships-hit-by-coronavirus-weeks-after-industry-restarts

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Annual South Dakota rally expecting 250K, stirring virus concerns
https://kutv.com/news/nation-world/annual-south-dakota-rally-expecting-250k-stirring-virus-concerns
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: ergophobe on August 03, 2020, 02:42:15 PM
Cruise ships restarted? Some people really aren't scared. I can see hopping on a plane for a few hours with full PPE and taking your chances, but days on end on a cruise ship????
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on August 03, 2020, 02:59:03 PM
>Cruise ships restarted?

Not for US. CDC banned them (again) until September, IIRC.  This was Norwegian/Scandanavian.
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on August 06, 2020, 11:35:11 AM
What part of stay out of damn cruise ships didn't you understand?!?

Only Alaska Cruise in 2020 Returns After Coronavirus Case Confirmed on Boat
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/only-alaska-cruise-in-2020-returns-after-coronavirus-case-confirmed-on-boat/ar-BB17CAra
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on August 08, 2020, 02:42:36 AM
Cardinals' coronavirus outbreak leaves team in disarray
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/cardinals/2020/08/07/cardinals-coronavirus-outbreak-leaves-team-disarray/3324895001/
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on September 06, 2020, 01:09:27 PM
NC: Outer Banks sees low covid-19 numbers; remains popular vacation spot despite pandemic | TribLIVE.com

https://triblive.com/local/regional/outer-banks-sees-low-covid-19-numbers-remains-popular-vacation-spot-despite-pandemic/
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: Travoli on September 06, 2020, 06:00:21 PM
For those unfamiliar, the Outer Banks is mostly single-family vacation rental homes near the beach. Summer was VERY busy. With remote schooling, might be the best Fall ever. Restaurants still struggling (except pizza delivery).
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on September 19, 2020, 03:30:30 PM
'Tsunami' of hotel closures is coming, experts warn - Los Angeles Times
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-09-19/hotels-out-of-business-covid-pandemic
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: ergophobe on September 19, 2020, 08:25:29 PM
In California, add into that that hotels that finally got opened after Covid, are closed again due to fires. Even before the park closure, the famed Ahwahnee Hotel had six rooms full (so roughly speaking 5% occupancy vs 95-100% occupancy normal in this period).

A friend who is a server in the dining room, which can seat 250 on a busy day, waited on the lone couple dining in the cavernous space. "Welcome to your private dining room," he said as he approached their table.

>>convention

As I mentioned before, even for hotels that don't seem to be dependent on conference business, it can be the 10-20% that puts them into the black. It also lets hotels bring rates down for leisure guests. Of course, on dates when a hotel has a strong conference business, that pushes the cost for leisure guests up. But globally, it tends to push it down even though conference guests pay a much-reduced rate.

So it's a double-whammy. The hotel loses the 20% of their business due to conferences. If the demand were there, they could cover it by raising the leisure rate, but in fact they have to cut the leisure rate, so they are getting it on both ends.
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on September 20, 2020, 08:52:43 PM
"Tourism traffic to the state has plunged more than 90% since the pandemic began"

Coronavirus: Hawaii visitors can skip quarantine if they test negative
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2020/09/17/coronavirus-hawaii-visitors-can-skip-quarantine-if-they-test-negative/3477627001/
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: ergophobe on September 21, 2020, 02:20:43 AM
I'm surprised to find that 77% of the economy is NOT based on tourism. When you go to Hawaii, sometimes it looks like there is hardly anything else.
https://www.hawaiipublicradio.org/post/experts-77-hawaiis-economy-isnt-tourism-policymakers-can-take-steps-reopen-it#stream/0
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on September 21, 2020, 07:04:18 PM
Huazhu Group Is Looking to Acquire Foreign Hotel Chains | National Real Estate Investor
https://www.nreionline.com/hotel/chinese-hotel-giant-eyes-foreign-deals-global-brands-languish
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on November 19, 2020, 01:17:39 AM
Tried to create a covid-free 'cruise bubble' ...didn't work.

Caribbean cruise COVID outbreak expands; Cruise line cancels voyages

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/11/cruise-line-cancels-voyages-after-caribbean-covid-outbreak-infects-9/
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: ergophobe on November 19, 2020, 02:03:24 AM
sigh...

Much unhappiness in the world is because people try to live in the world they want instead of the world that is.
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on December 26, 2021, 04:12:53 PM
The perfect incubator...

Third Florida-Based Cruise Sees COVID Outbreak
https://www.newser.com/story/314922/covid-outbreak-on-third-florida-based-cruise.html
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on December 28, 2021, 07:00:50 PM
CDC scrutinizes 68 cruise ships over COVID-19 outbreaks
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/cdc-scrutinizes-68-cruise-ships-over-covid-19-outbreaks-122821.html
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on December 30, 2021, 07:37:28 PM
Debbie says  "Same for planes!"

CDC says ‘avoid cruise travel, regardless of vaccination status’
https://www.today.com/health/cdc-says-avoid-cruise-travel-regardless-vaccination-status-rcna10466
Title: Re: CV19: Sports and Tourism
Post by: rcjordan on November 12, 2022, 03:56:52 PM
>>If you set out to design a perfect incubator for infectious agents, you'd end up with a cruise ship. 


Australia: Majestic Cruise Ship With 800 COVID Cases Docks in Sydney

https://www.businessinsider.com/majestic-cruise-ship-800-covid-positive-cases-docks-in-sydney-2022-11