The Core
Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: rcjordan on July 27, 2020, 01:59:30 PM
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Sports & Tourism seem to be the big pandemic drivers this summer. Baseball is trying to reopen amid a big dose of denial.
Eight Marlins Players, Two Coaches Test Positive For COVID-19; Tonight's Game Canceled
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/07/eight-marlins-players-two-coaches-test-positive-for-covid-19-tonights-game-canceled.html
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Second COVID-19 wave forces new travel curbs around the globe - Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus/second-covid-19-wave-forces-new-travel-curbs-around-the-globe-idUSKCN24S0HH
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I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!
Miami Marlins season on hold after 17 positive cases of COVID-19
https://www.insider.com/miami-marlins-season-pause-covid-19-2020-7
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I think the NBA and NHL have the right plan in place with their "bubble". Whether the players stay within the bubble is another story. So far it seems like the bubbles are working and there aren't a ton of positives coming from those leagues.
I think the NFL is going to keep a very close eye on what happens with MLB. The Marlins having an outbreak this early in the season could be very telling. If they can contain it and get it under control without it spreading to other teams that could be encouraging for the rest of the season and for the NFL teams.
The protocols the NFL has in place seem to be pretty solid with their testing, cleaning, tracking, etc. I would still definitely say its doubtful they will finish the season.
College football is going to be a total train wreck if they go forward with it.
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Those 'semi-pro' junior baseball travel teams have been playing all summer. I can only guess how many cases they've spread.
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Two Phillies staff members test positive for COVID-19, shutting down Citizens Bank Park
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2020/07/30/phillies-staff-coronavirus-covid-19-citizens-bank-park/5546358002/
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>college train wreck
Entire College Team Isolated
https://www.newser.com/story/294321/rutgers-football-shut-down.html
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Bills rookies sent home after positive coronavirus tests
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29565983/bills-rookies-sent-home-positive-coronavirus-tests-source-says
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“Our businesses have 12 weeks to make money to survive the rest of the year,” says Lauren Weaver, executive director of the Bethany-Fenwick Chamber of Commerce, noting that sales for the town’s 75 or so beach-district merchants are down 40% to 70% compared with a year ago. “A lot of them are not going to survive.”
Summer 2020: Coronavirus leaves beach towns worried they won’t survive
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/money/2020/07/27/coronavirus-effect-businesses-at-summer-haven-try-to-survive-season/5484792002/
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No games in Milwaukee after 4 more Cardinals personnel test positive for COVID-19, Detroit series shifted
https://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/birdland/no-games-in-milwaukee-after-4-more-cardinals-personnel-test-positive-for-covid-19-detroit/article_12a2a5d7-35c0-5705-924e-2d64a5cb2e71.html
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Two cruise ships hit by coronavirus weeks after industry restarts
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/03/two-cruise-ships-hit-by-coronavirus-weeks-after-industry-restarts
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Annual South Dakota rally expecting 250K, stirring virus concerns
https://kutv.com/news/nation-world/annual-south-dakota-rally-expecting-250k-stirring-virus-concerns
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Cruise ships restarted? Some people really aren't scared. I can see hopping on a plane for a few hours with full PPE and taking your chances, but days on end on a cruise ship????
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>Cruise ships restarted?
Not for US. CDC banned them (again) until September, IIRC. This was Norwegian/Scandanavian.
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What part of stay out of damn cruise ships didn't you understand?!?
Only Alaska Cruise in 2020 Returns After Coronavirus Case Confirmed on Boat
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/only-alaska-cruise-in-2020-returns-after-coronavirus-case-confirmed-on-boat/ar-BB17CAra
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Cardinals' coronavirus outbreak leaves team in disarray
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/cardinals/2020/08/07/cardinals-coronavirus-outbreak-leaves-team-disarray/3324895001/
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NC: Outer Banks sees low covid-19 numbers; remains popular vacation spot despite pandemic | TribLIVE.com
https://triblive.com/local/regional/outer-banks-sees-low-covid-19-numbers-remains-popular-vacation-spot-despite-pandemic/
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For those unfamiliar, the Outer Banks is mostly single-family vacation rental homes near the beach. Summer was VERY busy. With remote schooling, might be the best Fall ever. Restaurants still struggling (except pizza delivery).
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'Tsunami' of hotel closures is coming, experts warn - Los Angeles Times
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-09-19/hotels-out-of-business-covid-pandemic
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In California, add into that that hotels that finally got opened after Covid, are closed again due to fires. Even before the park closure, the famed Ahwahnee Hotel had six rooms full (so roughly speaking 5% occupancy vs 95-100% occupancy normal in this period).
A friend who is a server in the dining room, which can seat 250 on a busy day, waited on the lone couple dining in the cavernous space. "Welcome to your private dining room," he said as he approached their table.
>>convention
As I mentioned before, even for hotels that don't seem to be dependent on conference business, it can be the 10-20% that puts them into the black. It also lets hotels bring rates down for leisure guests. Of course, on dates when a hotel has a strong conference business, that pushes the cost for leisure guests up. But globally, it tends to push it down even though conference guests pay a much-reduced rate.
So it's a double-whammy. The hotel loses the 20% of their business due to conferences. If the demand were there, they could cover it by raising the leisure rate, but in fact they have to cut the leisure rate, so they are getting it on both ends.
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"Tourism traffic to the state has plunged more than 90% since the pandemic began"
Coronavirus: Hawaii visitors can skip quarantine if they test negative
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2020/09/17/coronavirus-hawaii-visitors-can-skip-quarantine-if-they-test-negative/3477627001/
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I'm surprised to find that 77% of the economy is NOT based on tourism. When you go to Hawaii, sometimes it looks like there is hardly anything else.
https://www.hawaiipublicradio.org/post/experts-77-hawaiis-economy-isnt-tourism-policymakers-can-take-steps-reopen-it#stream/0
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Huazhu Group Is Looking to Acquire Foreign Hotel Chains | National Real Estate Investor
https://www.nreionline.com/hotel/chinese-hotel-giant-eyes-foreign-deals-global-brands-languish
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Tried to create a covid-free 'cruise bubble' ...didn't work.
Caribbean cruise COVID outbreak expands; Cruise line cancels voyages
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/11/cruise-line-cancels-voyages-after-caribbean-covid-outbreak-infects-9/
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sigh...
Much unhappiness in the world is because people try to live in the world they want instead of the world that is.
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The perfect incubator...
Third Florida-Based Cruise Sees COVID Outbreak
https://www.newser.com/story/314922/covid-outbreak-on-third-florida-based-cruise.html
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CDC scrutinizes 68 cruise ships over COVID-19 outbreaks
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/cdc-scrutinizes-68-cruise-ships-over-covid-19-outbreaks-122821.html
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Debbie says "Same for planes!"
CDC says ‘avoid cruise travel, regardless of vaccination status’
https://www.today.com/health/cdc-says-avoid-cruise-travel-regardless-vaccination-status-rcna10466
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>>If you set out to design a perfect incubator for infectious agents, you'd end up with a cruise ship.
Australia: Majestic Cruise Ship With 800 COVID Cases Docks in Sydney
https://www.businessinsider.com/majestic-cruise-ship-800-covid-positive-cases-docks-in-sydney-2022-11