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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: rcjordan on March 25, 2020, 01:34:08 PM

Title: Darwin 202x
Post by: rcjordan on March 25, 2020, 01:34:08 PM
Mississippi Governor Declares Most Businesses 'Essential,' Supersedes Local Safety Efforts
https://m.jacksonfreepress.com/news/2020/mar/24/gov-tate-reeves-orders-limited-gatherings-today-ex/
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on March 25, 2020, 01:48:02 PM
The good news; We're going to see higher average intelligence after CV-19.

The Black Death, a plague that first devastated Europe in the 1300s, had a silver lining. After the ravages of the disease, surviving Europeans lived longer, a new study finds.

The longevity boost seen after the plague could have come as a result of the plague weeding out the weak and frail

DeWitte's previous research found the plague was like many sicknesses: It preferentially killed the very old and those already in poor health.

https://www.livescience.com/45428-health-improved-black-death.html  (blocks ad blockers, use incognito)

Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on March 25, 2020, 03:52:41 PM
Coronavirus: Louisiana pastor again ignores social distancing, hosts 1,800 worshippers Sunday
https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/coronavirus-louisiana-pastor-again-ignores-social-distancing-hosts-1800-worshippers-sunday/FXDBZC4STBECJM5EPIRGYYUKVM/
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: buckworks on March 25, 2020, 04:14:45 PM
As a Christian  that makes me weep.

It is a deplorable witness to the world.

Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on March 25, 2020, 06:04:50 PM
"When he says 'I' he means of course 'you,'"


Glenn Beck offers to die to save America from a COVID-19 shutdown
https://theweek.com/speedreads/904608/glenn-beck-offers-die-save-america-from-covid19-shutdown
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on March 25, 2020, 07:07:48 PM
Liberty University let more than 1,000 students return to campus during the coronavirus outbreak
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/us/liberty-university-reopens-coronavirus-trnd/index.html
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on March 25, 2020, 07:18:12 PM
>Darwin 2020

Most of those succumbing are past breeding age.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on March 25, 2020, 07:25:27 PM
>breeding age

Then it'll change political dynamics.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on March 25, 2020, 07:27:58 PM
<+>

CDC data estimates between 14-21% of cases for those aged 20-44 have needed hospitalisation.

Gov. Hogan reports majority of COVID-19 cases in MD are people in their 40s.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on March 25, 2020, 07:38:15 PM
Yeah, I think it will eventually help nudge us in the other direction, attempting to kill off your base is not a great way to get reelected.

Related: Before Trump called for reevaluating lockdowns, they shuttered six of his top-earning clubs and resorts (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/before-trump-called-for-reevaluating-lockdowns-they-shuttered-six-of-his-top-earning-clubs-and-resorts/2020/03/23/88780374-6d38-11ea-aa80-c2470c6b2034_story.html)
(use incognito + adblock to read)

What I'm amazed by is how quickly FoxNews and his minions fell inline.

>As a Christian  that makes me weep.

Most of the religious right aren't really Christians.

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Right, I guess we're uniquely unhealthy as a country and that's making our stats skew lower age.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on March 25, 2020, 07:43:00 PM
Denmark health minister apologizes to the Danish people for rejecting South Korea's COVID-19 test kits
https://news.v.daum.net/v/20200326004851620 (G translation)
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on March 25, 2020, 07:46:17 PM
>Trump

Salon tears him a new one.  ...Not that he cares.

On Topic:
Trump's magical thinking: Snake oil, an Easter resurrection and killing Nana for capitalism
https://www.salon.com/2020/03/25/trumps-magical-thinking-snake-oil-an-easter-resurrection-and-killing-nana-for-capitalism/
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on March 25, 2020, 11:24:35 PM
Bolsonaro urges Brazilians back to work, dismisses coronavirus 'hysteria' -

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-brazil/bolsonaro-urges-brazilians-back-to-work-dismisses-coronavirus-hysteria-idUSKBN21B2H2
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on March 26, 2020, 02:50:32 PM
CAN:
The lockdown should be for the old and vulnerable, no one else
https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/lawrence-solomon-the-lockdown-should-be-for-the-old-and-vulnerable-no-one-else
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: gm66 on March 26, 2020, 04:03:43 PM
They ate less in plague-times, i wonder if that could account for the longevity.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on March 26, 2020, 05:02:02 PM
I'm seeing a theme;

First, his byline:
Richard Harris is chief executive of Port Shelter Investment and is a veteran investment manager, banker, writer and broadcaster, and financial expert witness

The world simply can’t afford China-style coronavirus lockdowns

https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3077055/world-simply-cant-afford-china-style-coronavirus-lockdowns
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on March 26, 2020, 09:36:28 PM
They ate less in plague-times, i wonder if that could account for the longevity.

There are so many potentially conflating factors here.

1. Europe came out of the Medieval Warm Period in the latter part of the 13thC. The population boom that was supported by 250 years of "good" weather, was undercut as the climate got colder and wetter. Large swaths of marginal land at both high latitudes and high altitudes became unproductive. Europe had not had a major famine in over a century when famine reappeared in the early 14th C. So the plague hit a population that had stretched resources beyond the carrying capacity. The same disease might have had a very different effect if it had hit in 1200. In the sixteenth century, there were still places that had been chic getaway locations before the plague that were still abandoned. I believe population took two centuries to bounce back.

2. Even land that was simply less good, not due to altitude or latitude, also passed out of production.

3. The economic effects of the Black Death are still much debated, but some believe that it led to a golden age of peasantry. There was a deflationary pressure on grain because of less demand and, again, only the best land still being in use. Meanwhile, peasants were able to renegotiate leases because so many other tenants had died. Finally, some believe there was also a wealth effect. For generations, families had been splitting holdings, especially in regions that did not practice primogeniture. That meant holdings that were often insufficient for a family. But as branches of families died out, those who were left had a much stronger position. Finally, some also believe that the wealth effect from inheritance in urban and artisanal families, led to a market in luxury goods that fueled a more robust economy.

4. 14thC demographics are extremely difficult. I don't know the techniques she uses and maybe they surmount some of the problems, but wide-scale demographics using population-level data (i.e. entire cities) don't really become possible until the sixteenth or seventeenth centuries. To do any real analysis of life expectancy in Europe, you need death and baptismal records, which are rare before the mid-sixteenth century.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on March 27, 2020, 04:55:30 PM
Alabama Gov. Refuses To Issue Shelter In Place Order: ‘We Are Not California’

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/alabama-governor-refuse-shelter-in-place-order-not-california

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AL Gov. Ivey: "I was an economics teacher... If we kill businesses, we can't print enough money in Washington D.C. to bring a dead business back to life."
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: buckworks on March 27, 2020, 05:17:47 PM
 ... can't print enough money to bring dead people back to life, either.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on March 27, 2020, 07:49:26 PM
Economies are a lot easier to rebuild than lives.   The economies of Germany and Japan both roared back to global prominence after WWII, what didn't survive was their oligarchies'*.  I'm pretty sure this isn't a WWII level crisis.

*at least not at the level they were before
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on March 27, 2020, 08:37:04 PM
A far-right rallying cry: Older Americans should volunteer to work - POLITICO
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/older-americans-work-coronavirus-151240?cid=apn
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on March 27, 2020, 08:49:23 PM
(a) WhyTF are people still going out on those death ships?!!

(b) Just what FL needs, more dead people.

4 passengers dead on cruise ship heading to Port Everglades - South Florida

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-florida-coronavirus-deputies-infections-20200327-dhqwj7obzfbjldo7roewdd35h4-story.html
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on March 27, 2020, 09:30:25 PM
A far-right rallying cry: Older Americans should volunteer to work - POLITICO

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“Satan prefers sentimental humanists,” he wrote, and called the mass shutdown of New York City a sign that political and religious leaders had “signal[ed] by their actions that they, too, accept death’s dominion.”

In leftist circles, every time poor people vote Republican, there is always a cry that they are voting against their own interests.

I sort of feel like we're seeing the opposite now. The Trump demographic is the one most at risk of dying from the policies of these "conservatives" (totally the wrong word for any definition of conservatism I grew up with) governors and officials and pundits and cranks.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on March 27, 2020, 10:14:26 PM
>In leftist circles, every time poor people vote Republican, there is always a cry that they are voting against their own interests.

>I sort of feel like we're seeing the opposite now.

Can you explain your thinking here, to me this the ultimate fruition of poor Republicans going against their own interest.

 
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on March 27, 2020, 11:03:17 PM
Well, yes, it is that.

But I mean that instead of rank and file voters acting against their own interest by voting for politicians who, for example, will work to weaken worker protections and have corporations recognized as people, now you have right-wing politicians actively hampering efforts to protect the cranky old white people who vote for them.

So it's like it's inverted. The politicians are working against their own interest by taking actions that contribute to the spread of a disease that targets above all their core voting demographic.

So in states like Florida, which is a swing state, if I were a Republican governor, I would not be doing anything at all to disaffect or *kill* the old white folks in my state. And yet....

It's not all those liberal kids at the beach that are going to die...
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on March 27, 2020, 11:23:53 PM
Okay, I get your point now.  I guess protecting the interests of their wealthy backers is more important than getting reelected.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on March 28, 2020, 02:07:44 PM
Alabama to close ‘non-essential’ businesses to fight spread of COVID-19
https://www.wsfa.com/2020/03/27/alabamas-confirmed-cases-covid-continue-rise-deaths-reported/

TX: Judge Could Overturn McKinney’s Shelter in Place Order Monday
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavirus/judge-could-overturn-mckinneys-shelter-in-place-order-monday/2340826/

‘Can’t Stop Car Factory Due to Traffic Deaths’: Brazil’s Bolsonaro Says ‘Sorry, Some Will Die’ of Coronavirus
https://in.news.yahoo.com/t-stop-car-factory-due-030218567.html
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: gm66 on March 29, 2020, 12:54:55 PM
They ate less in plague-times, i wonder if that could account for the longevity.

There are so many potentially conflating factors here.

...

I watched a YT video on medieval diets, and the top comment was "Nice to know my diet is worse than a medieval peasant.".
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: Brad on March 29, 2020, 10:45:33 PM
Coronavirus: Belarus president refuses to cancel anything - and says vodka and saunas will ward off COVID-19

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-belarus-president-refuses-to-cancel-anything-and-says-vodka-and-saunas-will-ward-off-coronavirus-11965396
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on March 30, 2020, 04:30:42 PM
FL governor to issue “safer at home” for Southeast Florida ONLY after cases surge to 5,473 positive and 63 deaths

https://miami.cbslocal.com/2020/03/30/florida-coronavirus-update-gov-ron-desantis-joins-local-mayors-to-promote-safer-at-home-message/
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on March 30, 2020, 08:40:01 PM
Tennessee’s Governor Lee has finally issued a “Safer at Home” Order

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/health/2020/03/30/tennessee-governor-bill-lee-stay-at-home-order-to-stop-coronavirus/2937429001/
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on March 30, 2020, 09:00:36 PM
Pastor again defies state order not to hold large gatherings. He says 1,000 people came to his church Sunday

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/24/us/louisiana-pastor-spell-coronavirus/


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"If they close every door in this city, then I will close my doors," Spell told CNN on Tuesday. "But you can't say the retailers are essential but the church is not. That is a persecution of the faith."

Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on April 02, 2020, 08:05:07 PM
These Are the States Yet to Issue a Stay-at-Home Order Amid Coronavirus Pandemic
https://www.newsweek.com/these-are-states-yet-issue-stay-home-order-amid-coronavirus-pandemic-1495800
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on April 02, 2020, 08:20:39 PM
Alabama
Arkansas
Iowa
Missouri
Nebraska
North Dakota
Oklahoma
South Carolina
South Dakota
Utah
Wyoming

I see a theme there.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on April 02, 2020, 08:22:53 PM
>theme here

Me, too. And it's not just the South.

The South Doesn’t Want to Self-Isolate | Washington Monthly
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/04/02/the-south-doesnt-want-to-self-isolate/
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: Drastic on April 02, 2020, 11:44:31 PM
A lot of states on that list where people have an irregular disposition when being told what to do. I'd say while SC is fairly in the middle of that, take a look at our projections here:
https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

Where we have a project ICU bed shortage of 88 state wide. 1100 deaths which is less than twice what the flu does yearly. This is based on data that is slightly off as we have had bars/restaurant closures mandatory statewide for weeks, which is not reflected here.

Maybe I'm wrong but to me shutting everything down is an overreaction, for areas that aren't high population with no major outbreaks.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on April 03, 2020, 04:57:31 PM
Oklahoma: Amid pandemic, Stitt believes ‘personal responsibility’ will save the state
https://www.readfrontier.org/stories/amid-pandemic-stitt-believes-personal-responsibility-will-save-the-state/
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on April 14, 2020, 04:22:33 AM
Gyms in northern Utah get approval to open amid coronavirus pandemic (https://www.ksl.com/article/46741329/gyms-in-northern-utah-get-approval-to-open-amid-coronavirus-pandemic)

Virginia pastor who defiantly held church service dies of coronavirus (https://dnyuz.com/2020/04/13/virginia-pastor-who-defiantly-held-church-service-dies-of-coronavirus/)

Florida declares WWE an ‘essential business’ during coronavirus pandemic (https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-florida-declares-wwe-an-essential-business-despite-coronavirus-20200413-opmrz7gsyvdapk7fc476o3cmv4-story.html)
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on April 15, 2020, 09:19:00 PM
The video.

Thousands converge on Lansing to protest Whitmer's stay home order (https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/04/15/lansing-capitol-protest-michigan-stay-home-order/5136842002/)
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on April 18, 2020, 08:37:24 PM
A few years ago, I saw that there were people who prefer environmentally-less-efficient lightbulbs *because* they are worse for the environment.

What we're seeing on Florida's beaches today is a segment of the U.S. population that is pro-destruction, pro-failure.  (https://www.newsweek.com/florida-beaches-florida-moron-twitter-1498750)

#FloridaMorons
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on April 18, 2020, 09:47:13 PM
Movie theaters would be among the first businesses to reopen after coronavirus under Trump plan (https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/movies/2020/04/16/coronavirus-cinemas-would-among-first-reopen-under-trump-plan/5149700002/)
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on April 19, 2020, 06:17:28 AM
More stupidity American style.

“Fire Fauci!”

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/protesters-chant-fire-fauci-demand-end-lockdown.html
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: gm66 on April 19, 2020, 01:40:34 PM
Fauci and Gates have a disgusting history when it comes to the results of their vaccination programmes in Inda, Africa and elsewhere, Fauci shouldn't be anywhere near a position of power based on his record regarding vaccinations alone.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on May 01, 2020, 05:25:58 AM
Armed protesters enter Michigan's state capitol to demand end to coronavirus lockdown (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-01/armed-us-protesters-seek-end-to-coronavirus-restrictions/12205586)
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: gm66 on May 02, 2020, 11:17:32 PM
Pastor again defies state order not to hold large gatherings. He says 1,000 people came to his church Sunday

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/24/us/louisiana-pastor-spell-coronavirus/


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"If they close every door in this city, then I will close my doors," Spell told CNN on Tuesday. "But you can't say the retailers are essential but the church is not. That is a persecution of the faith."

That'll be an interesting data-harvest.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: buckworks on May 04, 2020, 01:05:30 AM
Stillwater rescinds mask order after businesses report employees 'threatened with physical violence' by those opposed

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/government-and-politics/stillwater-rescinds-mask-order-after-businesses-report-employees-threatened-with-physical-violence-by-those-opposed/article_6a5257e7-2a41-5d3c-bc16-03a2ec659494.html
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on May 07, 2020, 01:51:09 AM
California (email from my US Rep)
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Coronavirus Update - Preserving Civil Liberties

Attorney General William Barr recently released a memo discussing the importance of preserving Civil Rights during the COVID-19 pandemic. As he has said, the Constitution is not suspended during a crisis.

I believe that includes our First Amendment right to peaceably assemble, to petition our government for redress of grievance, the right to practice religion and the right not to be denied our liberty or property without due process of law.

I want to encourage you to read Attorney General Barr’s memo, which can be viewed here.

Additionally, you can file a complaint with The Civil Rights Division of the United States Department of Justice if you believe that recent actions by state and local entities are violating the Constitution.

And I want you to know that our office will assist you in any way we can to assure your complaint gets the attention it deserves.

To be fair... there is a legitimate point here. One of the things that surprised me and got me to immediately fall in love with France was that, compared to the US, your right to act stupidly and kill yourself is preserved. As an alpinist, I found that important. The difference is, of course, that France tends to be more restrictive about your right to act stupidly and kill your elderly neighbor.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on May 23, 2020, 09:57:36 PM
Half of Fox News viewers think Bill Gates is using pandemic to microchip them, survey suggests (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fox-news-bill-gates-conspiracy-pandemic-donald-trump-vaccine-republicans-a9529301.html)
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on May 24, 2020, 03:11:08 AM
>>Bill Gates

The defining characteristic of our age seems to be the historically high frequency with which ignorance and outrage are coupled.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ukgimp on May 24, 2020, 08:12:08 AM
Gates

Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on May 26, 2020, 12:41:52 AM
America Is Officially in ‘f### It’ Mode (https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/america-is-officially-in-f###-it-mode)
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: Rupert on June 01, 2020, 04:59:05 PM
Drink what you buy from us, and you will be saved:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/01/australias-drug-regulator-launches-court-action-against-church-touting-bleach-as-covid-19-cure
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: gm66 on June 01, 2020, 08:43:04 PM
I'm getting a bit jealous of the religious monopoly on the award. Is something going on behind the scenes ?
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on June 04, 2020, 06:39:42 PM
America Is Officially in ‘f### It’ Mode (https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/america-is-officially-in-f###-it-mode)

Yosemite National Park settles on a reopening date
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After being closed for more than two months due to the coronavirus pandemic, Yosemite National Park is ready to reopen as soon as next Wednesday or Thursday, but the plan hinges on state health officials granting approval for campsites and hotels to reopen in the surrounding communities to handle many of the overnight visitors.

Note, the letter is not a request from park officials to the state, but from local tourism bureaus etc.

But here's where we get to f### it mode

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Already, they say, crowds have arrived since Easter on sunny weekends, and with few places to stay, have camped illegally, left trash and even caused several small fires in counties around Yosemite. “We need to get campgrounds open and we need to get our hotels running so that when the park opens we can handle it. The people are coming anyway,” said Kevin Cann, chairman of the Mariposa County Board of Supervisors.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/03/yosemite-national-park-settles-on-reopening-date/

Basically, this is a PR war that the local counties are waging to get lodging open. This is in part a response to the state very quietly moving the goalposts. When Newsom announced we were moving to Stage 2, he included lodging for leisure travel in Stage 3. Just recently they changed Stage 3 to allow

Quote
Travel for permissible activities, such as healthcare, food, stages 1-3 work, and local or activities shopping related to open sectors.

They pushed general travel for tourism out to Stage 4, concurrent with stadium events.
Quote
Stage 4: End of stay at home order
Gradually open larger gathering venues at a pace consistent with public health and safety, such as nightclubs, concert venues, and live audience sports.

Gradually resume remaining activities and travel.

At that point, the tourism bureaus all freaked out. That could essentially mean all lodging in CA closed until there is a vaccine, so at least late 2021, but who knows. A vaccine or herd immunity could take years.

https://covid19.ca.gov/roadmap/#top
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on June 06, 2020, 09:28:44 PM
The elephant in the room:
Police Tactics Could Turn Protests Into Covid-19 Hot Spots (https://www.wired.com/story/police-tactics-could-turn-protests-into-covid-19-hot-spots/)

We are going to have a very bad July.

Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on June 06, 2020, 09:34:16 PM
The virus takes about a month to 'filter up' from the younger protesters to the elder population ...who start showing up in hospitals.


COVID-19 hospitalizations increasing in North Carolina
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article243299221.html

Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on June 18, 2020, 08:41:33 PM
In the USA we are heading to unprecedented territory.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-cases-covid-19?country=CAN~GBR~USA~European%20Union


Most of that is from before we went into f###-it mode.  This Friday our dear leader is holding a rally with 19 thousand loyal subjects offering themselves up for sacrifice.   
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: Rupert on June 19, 2020, 12:11:48 PM
A few thoughts, plagiarised from a mate:


It has been proved beyond reasonable doubt that this virus does not become a pandemic if certain human actions are taken
It has been claimed with a bit of supporting evidence that there is a semi treatment for 30% of cases already
Astra Zeneca - have taken the massive risk of starting to manufacture a vaccine already - in the hope that it gets approved - they must know something to announce that
Winston Churchill once said of the USA- having tried all other options the USA always does the right thing
In just over four months time you will have a different make up in the house and the senate
All global debt could end up being cancelled and we carry on with printing money and get away with it for the next hundred years
The next generation will achieve far more than we can possibly imagine - as they always have done
As a general rule people do not vote for a person who is showing the early symptoms  of the onset of dementia
People will learn to build their own sheds from recycled materials  (that one was for me)
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: gm66 on June 19, 2020, 03:59:00 PM
A few thoughts, plagiarised from a mate:


..

It's upbeat, i like it, The Human Spirit conquers all :)
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on June 19, 2020, 06:06:34 PM
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OT... but I can't resist, because one of the small things that reminds me of the pernicious side of the internet, it is the persistence of misquotes attributed to Churchill, Twain and Wilde...

Quote
Winston Churchill once said of the USA- having tried all other options the USA always does the right thing

This has become one of the ten most famous Churchill quotes.... except it was first attributed to Churchill in 1980. The original quote is from 1967 by Israeli politician Abba Eban who said, "Men and nations behave wisely when they have exhausted all other resources" and then later specifying the US in a 1970 congressional hearing.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/11/11/exhaust-alternatives/

Sorry for the OT, but I think misquotes are one of the most fun and innocuous examples of the basic epistemological problem of the internet - people do not trace things back to the sources.
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Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: gm66 on June 19, 2020, 06:33:19 PM
When i get my first country ergo, i'd like to offer you the job of National Administrator.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: Rupert on June 19, 2020, 06:38:35 PM
Quote
<offtopic data-type="pet-peave">

Your right to call it out.  I quite liked it too, as Winnie is getting some bad press over here recently.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on June 19, 2020, 07:56:04 PM
When i get my first country ergo, i'd like to offer you the job of National Administrator.

That would be a disastrous decision. Head Nitpicker or Ranter in Chief would be a better fit for my talents.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on June 20, 2020, 12:46:18 AM
Thanks for the pep-talk Rupert. 
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: Rupert on June 20, 2020, 06:04:17 AM
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Thanks for the pep-talk Rupert. 
   

The mate who wrote that for me, is in a very difficult place. I mean really hard, on many different levels. And has been for over 4 years now.  His is an unbelievable story.

I was so impressed that he can still see some blue sky, when there are times at present when I cannot.  I think it was more a pep talk for me than for you, but if it helped you, then I will tell him, as it will make his month to think that he was able to lift the spirits of someone in a small way.


Meanwhile I drop this link: https://darwinawards.com/ has it been listed on this thread? If not I dont see any hard in putting it in again.

Honoring Charles Darwin, the father of evolution, Darwin Awards commemorate those who improve our gene pool--by removing themselves from it in the most spectacular way possible.

Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: buckworks on June 20, 2020, 06:10:46 PM
Um, that should be “pet peeve”

 ;D
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: gm66 on June 20, 2020, 09:03:19 PM
Um, that should be “pet peeve”

 ;D

You pedent buck ;+}
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on June 22, 2020, 03:47:47 AM
Um, that should be “pet peeve”

 ;D

That is absolutely awesome. Thank you for the laugh.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on June 22, 2020, 08:30:31 PM
White House halts mandatory temperature checks, symptom screening (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/white-house-stops-mandatory-temperature-checks-symptom-screening-n1231708)

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The White House has stopped conducting mandatory temperature checks for all staffers and visitors entering the grounds, removing another layer of safeguards put in place after two officials became ill with the coronavirus last month.

While those who come in close contact with the president and vice president are still having their temperature checked and being questioned about symptoms, the steps are no longer being taken for others who enter the White House campus, said spokesman Judd Deere. Tents that had been manned for the past month by staffers with thermometers were being taken down on Monday.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: gm66 on June 24, 2020, 07:43:45 AM
The UK gov should get the award.

Health leaders "Prepare for a second wave"

Gov "The pubs will be open on July 4th"

It's not even funny.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on June 24, 2020, 05:34:27 PM
Gov "The pubs will be open on July 4th"

Has it come to that, that looking across the pond, Brits now celebrate the day they shed themselves of the American colonies?
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: Rupert on June 25, 2020, 06:03:50 AM
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Has it come to that, that looking across the pond, Brits now celebrate the day they shed themselves of the American colonies?

Oh lovely :)
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: gm66 on June 25, 2020, 02:35:47 PM
It will be an interesting month seeing what happens to everyone who does go to pubs and the like so soon.

Yes, odd that it's July 4th, UK and US have been cosying up for years it's obviously another tactic to make us all feel chummy ;+}
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on June 25, 2020, 04:26:54 PM
>what happens

Woman, 15 friends test positive for coronavirus after night out at Lynch’s
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/06/15/woman-15-friends-test-positive-for-coronavirus-after-night-out-at-lynchs/
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: gm66 on June 25, 2020, 04:36:31 PM
>what happens

Woman, 15 friends test positive for coronavirus after night out at Lynch’s
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/06/15/woman-15-friends-test-positive-for-coronavirus-after-night-out-at-lynchs/

Blimey.

'“We should be wearing masks. We should be social distancing,” Crisp said. “It was too soon to open everything back up.”

Lynch’s general manager said the pub will reopen at 11 a.m. Tuesday.'
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on June 25, 2020, 04:48:53 PM
>Blimey

Yeah.  A sampling of my feed headlines indicate that, on a per capita basis, pubs and bars are the most transmission-prone social spots.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on June 25, 2020, 05:15:34 PM
The "Freedom to Breathe Agency"
https://boingboing.net/2020/06/25/the-freedom-to-breathe-agenc.html
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on June 25, 2020, 10:05:55 PM
>40-year-old health care worker says she regrets not taking precautions

You think she'd be wise enough to know better.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on June 26, 2020, 03:28:04 PM
It's fair to say Bournemouth beach was a little bit crowded
https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2020/06/26/its-fair-to-say-bournemouth-beach-was-a-little-bit-crowded-9-favourite-things-people-said-about-it/
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on June 26, 2020, 05:11:30 PM
Palm Beach residents accuse city council of obeying "the Devil's laws" and threaten them with citizen's arrest after the city council voted to make wearing masks mandatory, despite to fact that "these masks are killing people." The public health doctor gets accused of "crimes against humanity."

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/06/24/mask-mandate-florida-anger-erupts-coronavirus-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/coronavirus/
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on June 27, 2020, 02:37:16 AM
'Don't be a sheep' (https://www.tri-cityherald.com/latest-news/article243830327.html) says the sheriff talking to a crowd of diabetics and seniors about mask wearing.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on June 29, 2020, 02:43:44 AM
'Don't be a sheep' says the sheriff.

I think QAnon is probably a big factor in these views.

For example
https://theconversation.com/qanon-conspiracy-theories-about-the-coronavirus-pandemic-are-a-public-health-threat-135515
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: rcjordan on June 29, 2020, 02:56:50 AM
Here in NC, we have quite a few sheriffs saying they will not enforce the mask order in their counties. Since sheriffs are elected in NC, I strongly suspect this is a play for their rural, conservative voter base. 
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on June 29, 2020, 06:00:28 PM
I think there is a difference between a sheriff who makes the political choice not to enforce, and one who says, "Don't be a sheep."

In the former, I see a pragmatist who may personally be in favor of or against mask wearing.

In the latter, I see QAnon propaganda working through to the mainstream (or possibly a QAnon sheriff who is putting it into the mainstream).
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on July 08, 2020, 08:31:30 PM
The local school district just held a community call about whether and how to reopen schools in the fall. Among the comments on the call:

 - it's a hoax, there is no virus
 - under no circumstances will we or our children wear masks
 - under no circumstances will we or our children get vaccinated. It's just a plot so the government can chip us and track us.

That's the dominant mode. Basically hardcore QAnon stuff runs rampant in this county
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on July 08, 2020, 09:31:58 PM
Meanwhile, a woman is so upset at Target for selling masks, she destroys the display while chanting "This sh##'s over"

When police went to her house, she identified herself as a QAnon spokesperson and said that they should verify with Donald Trump, but she couldn't speak because the info is classified.

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1279859772456611840

Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on July 09, 2020, 08:46:03 AM
More stupidity (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/louisiana-mask-chainsaw-guy_n_5f0688e5c5b63a72c33cfb6f) -- this time from Alabama.

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"If the government has the power to force you to wear a mask, they can force you to stick a needle in your arm against your will,” he said. “They can put a microchip in you. They can even make you take the mark. After all, it’s for the greater good.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on July 13, 2020, 09:04:46 PM
Florida (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=offPZ26SObs)
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on July 15, 2020, 05:00:04 AM
The saddest part of that video is the refrain, "This is America!"

Yep, sadly, that is America. God have mercy on us.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: Mackin USA on July 15, 2020, 12:25:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on July 15, 2020, 09:25:15 PM
>God Bless the U.S.A.

He surely hasn't as of late. A sizable percentage of our population is unwilling/unable to adapt or even act in their own self interest.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on July 16, 2020, 12:59:57 AM
The Black Death, a plague that first devastated Europe in the 1300s, had a silver lining.[/sup]

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200701-how-the-black-death-make-the-rich-richer

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The sudden loss of at least a third of Europe’s population didn’t lead to an even redistribution of wealth for everyone else. Instead, people responded to the devastation by keeping money within the family
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on August 13, 2020, 05:07:33 PM
Why Won’t Cops Wear Masks?

In New York City, widespread use of masks is keeping COVID-19 numbers low — but the cops don’t seem be onboard

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Scher says the account receives a few dozen complaints a day of NYPD officers not wearing masks, and plans to use its database to author a study regarding the percentage of cops who wear masks at protests. “The typical responses are, ‘I can’t breathe,’ ‘This is a free country,’ ‘It’s a recommendation, not the law,'” he says. (In fact, in New York state, it is a law for people within six feet of each other to wear a mask.)

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/nypd-masks-bella-hadid-1041003/
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on August 13, 2020, 08:24:41 PM
Police mostly lean far right in my anecdotal experiences.  I am not sure why being on the side of the grim reaper is a political stance these days, but it is.
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on August 25, 2020, 03:07:55 AM
Almost 50 North Texans Drank Bleach This Month, Poison Center Warns ‘Stop, It Won’t Cure COVID’ (https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/08/24/almost-50-north-texans-drank-bleach-this-month-poison-center-warns-stop-it-wont-cure-covid/)
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: littleman on August 29, 2020, 11:07:12 PM
10,000 anti-lockdown protesters gather in London to claim coronavirus is ‘a hoax’ (https://metro.co.uk/2020/08/29/anti-lockdown-protesters-calling-coronavirus-hoax-gather-london-13195529/)
Title: Re: Darwin 2020
Post by: ergophobe on August 30, 2020, 12:33:16 AM
Hundreds arrested in German 'anti-corona' protests (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53959552)

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The protests have also gained support from Robert F Kennedy Jr. The anti-vaccination campaigner, also the son of assassinated US Democratic presidential hopeful Robert F Kennedy and nephew of assassinated US President John F Kennedy, is at the demonstrations in Berlin.

Mr Kennedy told the crowd at the Victory Column that his uncle had famously addressed Berlin in 1963 to counter totalitarianism and that "today Berlin is again the front against totalitarianism", warning of a surveillance state and the power of 5G phone networks.
Title: Re: Darwin 202x
Post by: rcjordan on July 09, 2023, 01:09:47 PM
This new TikTok challenge has claimed 4 lives in Alabama

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/tiktoks-fatal-boat-jumping-trend-claims-4-lives-in-alabama-101688884812926.html