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Re: Darwin 2020
« Reply #45 on: May 04, 2020, 01:05:30 AM »

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Re: Darwin 2020
« Reply #46 on: May 07, 2020, 01:51:09 AM »
California (email from my US Rep)
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Coronavirus Update - Preserving Civil Liberties

Attorney General William Barr recently released a memo discussing the importance of preserving Civil Rights during the COVID-19 pandemic. As he has said, the Constitution is not suspended during a crisis.

I believe that includes our First Amendment right to peaceably assemble, to petition our government for redress of grievance, the right to practice religion and the right not to be denied our liberty or property without due process of law.

I want to encourage you to read Attorney General Barr’s memo, which can be viewed here.

Additionally, you can file a complaint with The Civil Rights Division of the United States Department of Justice if you believe that recent actions by state and local entities are violating the Constitution.

And I want you to know that our office will assist you in any way we can to assure your complaint gets the attention it deserves.

To be fair... there is a legitimate point here. One of the things that surprised me and got me to immediately fall in love with France was that, compared to the US, your right to act stupidly and kill yourself is preserved. As an alpinist, I found that important. The difference is, of course, that France tends to be more restrictive about your right to act stupidly and kill your elderly neighbor.

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Re: Darwin 2020
« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2020, 03:11:08 AM »
>>Bill Gates

The defining characteristic of our age seems to be the historically high frequency with which ignorance and outrage are coupled.

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Re: Darwin 2020
« Reply #49 on: May 24, 2020, 08:12:08 AM »
Gates


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Re: Darwin 2020
« Reply #50 on: May 26, 2020, 12:41:52 AM »

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Re: Darwin 2020
« Reply #52 on: June 01, 2020, 08:43:04 PM »
I'm getting a bit jealous of the religious monopoly on the award. Is something going on behind the scenes ?
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Re: Darwin 2020
« Reply #53 on: June 04, 2020, 06:39:42 PM »
America Is Officially in ‘f### It’ Mode

Yosemite National Park settles on a reopening date
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After being closed for more than two months due to the coronavirus pandemic, Yosemite National Park is ready to reopen as soon as next Wednesday or Thursday, but the plan hinges on state health officials granting approval for campsites and hotels to reopen in the surrounding communities to handle many of the overnight visitors.

Note, the letter is not a request from park officials to the state, but from local tourism bureaus etc.

But here's where we get to f### it mode

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Already, they say, crowds have arrived since Easter on sunny weekends, and with few places to stay, have camped illegally, left trash and even caused several small fires in counties around Yosemite. “We need to get campgrounds open and we need to get our hotels running so that when the park opens we can handle it. The people are coming anyway,” said Kevin Cann, chairman of the Mariposa County Board of Supervisors.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/03/yosemite-national-park-settles-on-reopening-date/

Basically, this is a PR war that the local counties are waging to get lodging open. This is in part a response to the state very quietly moving the goalposts. When Newsom announced we were moving to Stage 2, he included lodging for leisure travel in Stage 3. Just recently they changed Stage 3 to allow

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Travel for permissible activities, such as healthcare, food, stages 1-3 work, and local or activities shopping related to open sectors.

They pushed general travel for tourism out to Stage 4, concurrent with stadium events.
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Stage 4: End of stay at home order
Gradually open larger gathering venues at a pace consistent with public health and safety, such as nightclubs, concert venues, and live audience sports.

Gradually resume remaining activities and travel.

At that point, the tourism bureaus all freaked out. That could essentially mean all lodging in CA closed until there is a vaccine, so at least late 2021, but who knows. A vaccine or herd immunity could take years.

https://covid19.ca.gov/roadmap/#top
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Re: Darwin 2020
« Reply #54 on: June 06, 2020, 09:28:44 PM »
The elephant in the room:
Police Tactics Could Turn Protests Into Covid-19 Hot Spots

We are going to have a very bad July.


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Re: Darwin 2020
« Reply #55 on: June 06, 2020, 09:34:16 PM »
The virus takes about a month to 'filter up' from the younger protesters to the elder population ...who start showing up in hospitals.


COVID-19 hospitalizations increasing in North Carolina
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article243299221.html


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Re: Darwin 2020
« Reply #56 on: June 18, 2020, 08:41:33 PM »
In the USA we are heading to unprecedented territory.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-cases-covid-19?country=CAN~GBR~USA~European%20Union


Most of that is from before we went into f###-it mode.  This Friday our dear leader is holding a rally with 19 thousand loyal subjects offering themselves up for sacrifice.   

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Re: Darwin 2020
« Reply #57 on: June 19, 2020, 12:11:48 PM »
A few thoughts, plagiarised from a mate:


It has been proved beyond reasonable doubt that this virus does not become a pandemic if certain human actions are taken
It has been claimed with a bit of supporting evidence that there is a semi treatment for 30% of cases already
Astra Zeneca - have taken the massive risk of starting to manufacture a vaccine already - in the hope that it gets approved - they must know something to announce that
Winston Churchill once said of the USA- having tried all other options the USA always does the right thing
In just over four months time you will have a different make up in the house and the senate
All global debt could end up being cancelled and we carry on with printing money and get away with it for the next hundred years
The next generation will achieve far more than we can possibly imagine - as they always have done
As a general rule people do not vote for a person who is showing the early symptoms  of the onset of dementia
People will learn to build their own sheds from recycled materials  (that one was for me)
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Re: Darwin 2020
« Reply #58 on: June 19, 2020, 03:59:00 PM »
A few thoughts, plagiarised from a mate:


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It's upbeat, i like it, The Human Spirit conquers all :)
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Re: Darwin 2020
« Reply #59 on: June 19, 2020, 06:06:34 PM »
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OT... but I can't resist, because one of the small things that reminds me of the pernicious side of the internet, it is the persistence of misquotes attributed to Churchill, Twain and Wilde...

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Winston Churchill once said of the USA- having tried all other options the USA always does the right thing

This has become one of the ten most famous Churchill quotes.... except it was first attributed to Churchill in 1980. The original quote is from 1967 by Israeli politician Abba Eban who said, "Men and nations behave wisely when they have exhausted all other resources" and then later specifying the US in a 1970 congressional hearing.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/11/11/exhaust-alternatives/

Sorry for the OT, but I think misquotes are one of the most fun and innocuous examples of the basic epistemological problem of the internet - people do not trace things back to the sources.
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