The Core

My first thought is they are measuring the wrong things. There are too many other variables. I speak not with knowledge exactly, but what I am currently learning from Tom Spector's trials.

I am not surprised by the result, but suspect it has more to do with the way the carbs are presented than anything else.

From Sues Zoe study, we have discovered her body absorbs calories differently, depending on how it is presented to the body. (E.g. highly processed to not processed)
(Blood sugar monitor on for 2 weeks etc etc. The program leads you down this path testing different foods and different exercise timing.  Exercise in this case is a short walk)

So if the carbs are presented as processed, and they likely are, then the body will likely put it straight down as fat. 

The sirens' song of restaurant & fast food lifestyle is hard to overcome.

Sugar craving. I get it.

listened to this one today.:
https://joinzoe.com/learn/podcast-how-your-gut-can-change-your-mind

After your thread here RC, this is next :
https://joinzoe.com/learn/podcast-processed-foods

OK Interesting.  Someone told me wheat is the most successful life on the planet.

Do you have many walnuts, almonds, brazils, cashews, hazel etc?

>Do you have many walnuts, almonds, brazils, cashews, hazel etc?

Most 'common' nuts have some nutrients that are negative for kidneys and many are salted (sodium is a top no-no), but I do still eat a fair amount of walnuts.  I eat handfuls of honey-roasted peanuts almost daily.

Association Between Frequency of Eating Away-From-Home Meals and Risk of All-Cause and Cause-Specific Mortality

https://www.jandonline.org/article/S2212-2672(21)00059-9/fulltext

It goes way beyond calories, fats, & salt.  Restaurants use massively pre-processed foods for a start, then they douse their foods with chemicals & additives to increase shelf life and and appearance (phosphorous is used big-time).  This is the underlying reason that kidney patients have big problems because of eating out.  Grocery stores also spray meats & produce for the same reasons. 

Americans Are Addicted to 'Ultra-Processed' Foods, and It's Killing Us

https://www.newsweek.com/2021/12/17/americans-are-addicted-ultra-processed-foods-its-killing-us-1656977.html

"Lab-made creations such as chips, hot dogs, enriched bagels and American cheese have been a staple of the American diet since the 1980s. In recent years, however, the varieties of these foods have multiplied on store shelves and in fast-food restaurants. In 2017 and 2018, they accounted for 57 percent of the calories consumed by the average American—up from 54 percent in 2001 and 2002, according to one study."

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The above Newsweek article is worth a read. Be sure to read the results of Hall's research.

>current research is only just scratching the surface.

...And it appears that most of that research is being waylaid by Big Tobacco (now Big Food) lobbyists.

50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists To Point Blame At Fat : NPR

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat

>Do you have to limit oxalate consumption at all?

Good question. I had to research oxalates a bit.  The answer is 'No, we are not warned about oxalates directly.' But, as it turns out, almost all the common oxalates are high in nutrients that we are told to limit or avoid.

https://www.webmd.com/diet/foods-high-in-oxalates

>wheat

"Half of the wheat intended for human food in Europe contained DON, while in the United Kingdom, 70 percent was contaminated. However, 95 percent met the safety limits for DON concentration."

Scientists expose the scale of mycotoxins in wheat problem | Food Safety News

https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2022/12/scientists-expose-scale-of-mycotoxins-in-wheat-problem/

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...and cut back on the bacon.

‘Too much’ nitrite-cured meat brings clear risk of cancer, say scientists | Cancer | The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/dec/27/too-much-nitrite-cured-meat-brings-clear-risk-of-cancer-say-scientists