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Mackin USA

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END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT [part 69]
« on: February 17, 2017, 11:14:15 AM »
Tech billionaire issues stark warning saying artificial intellgence could DESTROY human race which is already ‘part cyborg’ because of its dependence on smartphones.

Speaking at the World Government Summit in Dubai, the entrepreneur also told the 4000 strong conference he saw space flights to the far reaches of the solar system being as common as a plane ride in 50 years.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2883522/tech-billionaire-issues-stark-warning-to-human-race-saying-artificial-intellgence-could-destroy-human-race-which-is-already-part-cyborg-because-of-its-dependence-on-smartphones/
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Re: END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT [part 69]
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2017, 05:46:47 PM »
>part cyborg

I think there is some truth to that.  Today we rely on the ability to look up information at a whim.  In a way this started when humans started writing things down, but the Internet and computational power made it so much easier.  I read some time back that preliterate cultures put enormous importance on memorization and that the equivalent of whole books were memorized and passed down from generation to generation.

I am fairly curtain that in the next couple of decade or so the device will be embedded in us somehow, maybe via smart contact lenses, maybe a chip attached to the base of our spine.  It will probably make what we have today seem like a teletype machine. Most of us old-timers will be like "No, I am not getting that thing in my head", but the younger generations are going to embrace it.  Anyway, I wonder if the future cyborgs will be smart enough to harness the AI properly?
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Re: END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT [part 69]
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2017, 06:11:45 PM »
Some people are using implanted CGM (Continuous Glucose Monitoring) to increase healthspan. Because "You age at the rate you produce insulin."
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Re: END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT [part 69]
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2017, 06:30:13 PM »
>"You age at the rate you produce insulin."

Do you know what studies they are referencing for that theory?
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Re: END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT [part 69]
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2017, 08:32:23 PM »
Quote from: Mackin USA on February 17, 2017, 11:14:15 AM
dependence on smartphones.

A few years ago, I heard someone say how important it was to back up her phone data (especially pictures) and use the phrase "because those are my memories."

I realized at that point that smartphones have been prepping people for implants. Sooner or later, the idea that "my memories" would have primary (as opposed to backup) storage "off-body" is going to become unacceptable.
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Re: END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT [part 69]
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2017, 09:17:29 PM »
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Re: END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT [part 69]
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2017, 09:42:24 PM »
Thanks, that's the first I've seen where someone has claimed that insulin=aging.  Ferriss seems to be a little loose with science sometimes.  Ketosis and IF both keep insulin down, so you piqued my curiosity.
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Re: END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT [part 69]
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2017, 10:43:45 PM »
Check out Dr. Peter Attia and Dr. Dominic D'agostino. They research metabolism, ketosis, etc...
Both have been guests of Tim Ferriss and many other casters/youtubers. Solid credentials and attitudes, IMO.
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Re: END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT [part 69]
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2017, 11:04:09 PM »
Thanks Trav.  I've listened to (and enjoyed) lectures from Attia and D'agostio before, but I must have missed the insulin equals aging idea.
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Re: END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT [part 69]
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2017, 11:06:36 PM »
Quote from: littleman on February 17, 2017, 09:42:24 PM
Thanks, that's the first I've seen where someone has claimed that insulin=aging.  Ferriss seems to be a little loose with science sometimes.  Ketosis and IF both keep insulin down, so you piqued my curiosity.

That's been around a long time with respect to Alzheimer's at least

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An emerging body of evidence suggests that an increased prevalence of insulin abnormalities and insulin resistance in Alzheimer's disease may contribute to the disease pathophysiology and clinical symptoms. It has long been known that insulin is essential for energy metabolism in the periphery. In the past 2 decades, convergent findings have begun to demonstrate that insulin also plays a role in energy metabolism and other aspects of CNS function. Investigators reported 20 years ago [i.e. 1983] that insulin and insulin receptors were densely but selectively expressed in the brain, including the medial temporal regions that support the formation of memory.

CNS Drugs. 2003;17(1):27-45.
The role of insulin resistance in the pathogenesis of Alzheimer's disease: implications for treatment.
Watson GS1, Craft S.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12467491

... as one example
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Re: END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT [part 69]
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2017, 11:09:25 PM »
Yikes! Google Alzheimer's insulin for current news if you want a good scare.
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Re: END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT [part 69]
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Re: END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT [part 69]
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2017, 12:45:26 AM »
That was a good article RC.  It is looking more like IF and low insulin gives you much of the benefit of CR.  There is a Jason Fung points to evidence that IF is superior to constant low level calories because it allows insulin to go down.  He argues that insulin acts as a block that does not allow the body to tap into its own reserves.

While we are on the subject autophagy is really interesting!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autophagy#Autophagy_and_cancer
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