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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: Mackin USA on September 03, 2015, 12:25:40 PM

Title: EUROPE MIGRANT ISSUE > you say what?
Post by: Mackin USA on September 03, 2015, 12:25:40 PM
Should the EU try to solve the problem at it's source?
Title: Re: EUROPE MIGRANT ISSUE > you say what?
Post by: JasonD on September 03, 2015, 12:52:08 PM
No words.... :(
Title: Re: EUROPE MIGRANT ISSUE > you say what?
Post by: Chunkford on September 03, 2015, 12:57:25 PM
Yes, and not just the EU, but the whole world. Sickens me that people will risk everything just to be able to live a life without fear.

It really shouldn't need pictures of dead children washed up on the beaches for the world to take notice.
Title: Re: EUROPE MIGRANT ISSUE > you say what?
Post by: Brad on September 03, 2015, 01:01:32 PM
So sad.

I think a first step is to get rid of the N. African 19th Century colonial borders and let new nation states form.
Title: Re: EUROPE MIGRANT ISSUE > you say what?
Post by: littleman on September 03, 2015, 04:02:48 PM
Heart breaking.  Seems like the reluctance to help is stemming from the fear that today's refugees will be tomorrow's terrorists. The EU needs to figure out how to balance that out with what is needed now.

>Should the EU try to solve the problem at it's source?

I can't imagine that coming out well.
Title: Re: EUROPE MIGRANT ISSUE > you say what?
Post by: JasonD on September 03, 2015, 04:24:41 PM
> today's refugees will be tomorrow's terrorists

I don't think that's actually the main fear. Europe has enough home grown terror to concern itself with and most 1st & 2nd generation immigrants are so thankful to their new hosts that terror wouldn't come to play.

I think the issues are much more about finances. Germany and ironically.... as it seems most Brits want to leave the EU.... the UK, are holding the EU up financially with even France's economy dropping. I won't even mention the Southern EU countries. Germany does well under a stressed Euro as without the rest of the EU reigning the currency in, inflation would be huge in DE.

The pictures of the kids though....... Over the next few weeks I expect to see massive change and news about assisting those so desperate to find new lives, they'll go through such treacherous and dangerous waters..
Title: Re: EUROPE MIGRANT ISSUE > you say what?
Post by: Gurtie on September 03, 2015, 08:31:12 PM
>> financial

actually I think its even simpler - the average Brit is happy to 'donate' to the genuinely needy, but not to someone they think is a fraud. If the economic migrants could be accurately seperated from the persecuted migrants, I suspect there wouldl be a lot more public pressure to let more people come to the UK. Ironically if we werent in the EU we'd probably be more welcoming now.

while we struggle to properly work out who of those who already live in the UK 'deserve' support and who doesn't, I doubt we'll reach a very good resolution over the wider migrant issue.

Thankfully Farage is keeping quiet. Or perhaps we need him to tip the balance.
Title: Re: EUROPE MIGRANT ISSUE > you say what?
Post by: JasonD on September 03, 2015, 09:10:32 PM
>  the average Brit is happy to 'donate' to the genuinely needy, but not to someone they think is a fraud.

Agreed.
Title: Re: EUROPE MIGRANT ISSUE > you say what?
Post by: Mackin USA on September 04, 2015, 11:11:42 AM
I just saw David Cameron say the smartest thing.

If the UK is going to accept Syrians, they should go to the camps in Syria and PICK THEM UP.
Title: Re: EUROPE MIGRANT ISSUE > you say what?
Post by: ukgimp on September 04, 2015, 11:15:29 AM
What's massively wrong about all this is the f###ing press.

Two weeks ago it was all "illegal immigrants swamping us" or some such newspaper bollocks.

Now they see the public feeling and they are taking the high ground.

Wankers all of them.

Title: Re: EUROPE MIGRANT ISSUE > you say what?
Post by: Brad on September 04, 2015, 11:46:29 AM
>>press

They just want to be rabble rousers now.  Yahoo news has gone down the tubes.
Title: Re: EUROPE MIGRANT ISSUE > you say what?
Post by: Rumbas on September 04, 2015, 12:50:41 PM
> more about finances

Agreed. Consensus here in Denmark is that we simply cannot afford hordes of refugees, not enough housing etc. and them not contributing to the economy will break our welfare system.

We wanna help.. but the retards that burned our flag and destroyed our embassy in Syria a few years ago due to a cartoon can.. well...
Title: Re: EUROPE MIGRANT ISSUE > you say what?
Post by: Rooftop on September 04, 2015, 01:06:03 PM
What's massively wrong about all this is the f###ing press.

Two weeks ago it was all "illegal immigrants swamping us" or some such newspaper bollocks.

Now they see the public feeling and they are taking the high ground.

Wankers all of them.



I've been saying the same. 

It's been "migrants this, immigrants that".  One photo of a drowned child and suddenly it's "poor refugees".  Did the journos think they were all leaving the kids behind in Syria???   

Title: Re: EUROPE MIGRANT ISSUE > you say what?
Post by: ukgimp on September 04, 2015, 01:28:12 PM
Here you go
Title: Re: EUROPE MIGRANT ISSUE > you say what?
Post by: sugarkane on September 04, 2015, 01:41:33 PM
> Here you go

Excellent.