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Rupert

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Re: FAMINE?
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2017, 07:37:02 PM »
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solar-powered cold storage
  that is awesome.  The big houses in the UK used to have caves/cellars that they filled with snow in the winter, too keep stuff cool for the rest of the year. I struggled to find a reference online, although I have been to it:
https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1088185


Yes, the eating to much comment was Chocolate in cheek :)  I accept waste is a big problem.

 As is the logistics of transporting it from where it is to where it is needed. Or should we be making sure that the food is grown/made where it is needed? I think the latter, as it puts work there too, and so that elusive sense of worth. But I would love to know more about why Ethiopia has been unable to get out of the famine trap.

LM, thanks for that link to Swift  for a little black humour, it was not what I expected....  I read Gullivers travels as a boy, but was completely unaware of that. (I feel quite ill.)
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Re: FAMINE?
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2017, 07:53:44 PM »
Quote from: Rupert on March 13, 2017, 07:37:02 PM
Yes, the eating to much comment was Chocolate in cheek :)  I accept waste is a big problem.

I understood that. What I was responding to, was more the comment about waste because of not meeting supermarket standards. That's the sort of thing I always think of. What was new to me until recently was realizing how much waste was happening in the poor world because of the bad cold chain. Obvious once someone says it, but it wasn't obvious to me until I read it.

>>LM, thanks for that link to Swift  for a little black humour

I think most school kids in the US are assigned A Modest Proposal at some point. On my trip to Ireland, it ran through my mind constantly both at historic sites ("Chateau O'Reilly, sacked by Cromwellian forces in 1657" over and over) and when I went from the very Irish and insanely rocky and steep farmland of the Dingle penninsula to the gorgeous and fertile rolling fields of the English north.
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Re: FAMINE?
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2017, 12:52:24 PM »
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Re: FAMINE?
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2017, 01:32:09 PM »
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Dingle penninsula
  honeymooned there on the motorbike :)

did you meet Fungie the dolphin?
https://www.dingle-peninsula.ie/home/fungie-the-dingle-dolphin.html
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Re: FAMINE?
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2017, 06:22:19 PM »
Quote from: Mackin USA on March 14, 2017, 12:52:24 PM
COLD STORAGE
http://www.coldhubs.com/

Yeah... see my previous. They are one of several and this seems to be something on the move. As Hans Rosling was always pointing out, we think of Sudan of today as like the "West" 200 years ago, but in terms of life expectancy, it's the US of 1970 (70 years) and in terms of income it's Spain in 1950 (about 4000/year).

http://www.gapminder.org/world/#$majorMode=chart$is;shi=t;ly=2003;lb=f;il=t;fs=11;al=30;stl=t;st=t;nsl=t;se=t$wst;tts=C$ts;sp=5.59290322580644;ti=2015$zpv;v=0$inc_x;mmid=XCOORDS;iid=phAwcNAVuyj1jiMAkmq1iMg;by=ind$inc_y;mmid=YCOORDS;iid=phAwcNAVuyj2tPLxKvvnNPA;by=ind$inc_s;uniValue=8.21;iid=phAwcNAVuyj0XOoBL_n5tAQ;by=ind$inc_c;uniValue=255;gid=CATID0;by=grp$map_x;scale=log;dataMin=194;dataMax=96846$map_y;scale=lin;dataMin=1;dataMax=84$map_s;sma=50;smi=2$cd;bd=0$inds=i214_t001800,,,,;i240_t001800,,,,;i239_t001800,,,,;i212_t001800,,,,;i108_t001800,,,,
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Re: FAMINE?
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2017, 01:29:19 PM »
Until such time a true Star Trek style replicator is available this will have to do - http://genie.cooking
It will solve all that excess food we waste as everything will be on demand and no need for chilled storage :D
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Re: FAMINE?
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2017, 11:30:58 PM »
Quote from: Rupert on March 14, 2017, 01:32:09 PM
did you meet Fungie the dolphin?

We missed Fungie. We did spend a fair bit of time at Murphy's ice cream and met Kieran Murphy.
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Re: FAMINE?
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2017, 06:38:18 AM »
Ah, I missed the ice cream :) 

When this is all over, we will go back! (We have been saying that for 24 years)
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