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Title: Fire Again!!!
Post by: ergophobe on August 30, 2017, 07:04:36 PM
This roof in the foreground is the building that I work in. Road is closed (as is one of the other main roads from here)
http://prntscr.com/gf2f78
http://www.sierrastar.com/news/local/article170176297.html

This is the small store across the street from where I work
https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21246522_1587353561328572_3322983574846848090_o.jpg?oh=dcd6ecc6194d9bdd03c9f0d5370fa18c&oe=5A1C92D4
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: ergophobe on August 30, 2017, 07:22:10 PM
Parking lot of where I work
https://www.facebook.com/CoryJamesABC30/videos/vb.460647567454214/697735817078720/?type=2&theater
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: rcjordan on August 30, 2017, 07:26:44 PM
Looks to be time to put down the keyboard and get the hell outta Dodge, EG.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: littleman on August 30, 2017, 08:21:42 PM
Stay safe Ergo & Theresa.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: ergophobe on August 30, 2017, 08:48:44 PM
That fire (Railroad Fire) is near work, which is about 15 miles away.

There's actually another fire (South Fork Fire) *between* here and there which is past peak. And then about 4-5 miles away is *another* fire (Empire Fire) closing another road. That one I'm sort of worried about. Helicopter hovering overhead as I type this

I just posted since it's in the news, and whenever there's Yosemite news and I don't post about it, Mr Mackin gets on me.

But here's a map for the curious and the bored

Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: Rupert on August 31, 2017, 10:49:02 AM
Stay safe.... I was not aware of it. Seems you folks have fire and flood on the continent, makes a damp windy summer seem a mild complaint :)
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: Mackin USA on August 31, 2017, 11:17:33 AM
STAY SAFE

You have PLEASED ME with your excellent report  ;)
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: Rumbas on August 31, 2017, 12:50:57 PM
Wow, stay safe Tom & Theresa! That looks scary!
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: ergophobe on August 31, 2017, 03:11:35 PM
STAY SAFE

You have PLEASED ME with your excellent report  ;)

That made me laugh. Like the gods have been appeased.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: rcjordan on August 31, 2017, 03:38:52 PM
>Like the gods have been appeased.

It's sorta an inside admin joke from eons ago, when admins ruled the earth.

<added>
"You may call me MISTER Mackin."
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: ergophobe on August 31, 2017, 06:41:28 PM
"You may call me MISTER Mackin."

I don't need reminding. I know my place.

Mr Mackin gets on me.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: rcjordan on August 31, 2017, 06:45:40 PM
>MISTER Mackin

That was a post of his at WmW.  What an a##hole. I should have banned him, hhh.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: rcjordan on September 01, 2017, 10:41:44 PM
Meanwhile, in Montana

Glacier Park's historic Sperry Chalet burns down
http://missoulian.com/news/state-and-regional/glacier-park-s-sperry-chalet-burns-down/article_79c91852-3ba9-53c8-9bc8-ad6b96168641.html
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: littleman on September 02, 2017, 04:19:22 AM
The smoke is actually pretty thick all the way out here today, and there is record heat all over the West coast.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: ergophobe on September 02, 2017, 05:18:54 PM
Meanwhile, in Montana

Glacier Park's historic Sperry Chalet burns down
http://missoulian.com/news/state-and-regional/glacier-park-s-sperry-chalet-burns-down/article_79c91852-3ba9-53c8-9bc8-ad6b96168641.html

Guess where we're headed in a week?

Out of the fire, into the frying pan, as the saying goes. At least the first half is not even metaphorical
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: rcjordan on September 02, 2017, 07:26:17 PM
My feed is full of fire articles and I haven't tweaked any kws.

>headed

Don't go to L.A. 

Also, fire 16 miles from Burning Man. I didn't know playas could burn.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: DrCool on September 03, 2017, 02:06:36 AM
>Don't go to LA

My brother in law and his family are in Montrose and the La Tuna Canyon fire is getting a bit too close for comfort.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: littleman on September 03, 2017, 02:28:35 AM
>Don't go to LA

One of my kids is on her way to Disneyland and just took this pic from 101.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: Mackin USA on September 03, 2017, 10:08:17 AM
>Don't go to LA

If you ever plan to go to "Southern California" make it Orange County. Fly into SNA

IMO  ;)
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: littleman on September 04, 2017, 03:04:51 AM
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Firefighters in California were battling 19 large wildfires statewide, officials said Sunday, including a brush fire that was being called the largest ever in Los Angeles.

In all, more than more than 12,000 pairs of boots were on the ground battling the fires, and temperatures on Sunday were up to 20 degrees hotter than usual.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/09/03/19-wildfires-burn-california/629963001/

It was 109 degrees at the coast, 106 in SF -- like the state has been thrown into a toaster oven.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: ergophobe on September 04, 2017, 03:49:07 AM
New fire broke out in our county today. That's four significant fires that currently or recently resulted in evacuations (3/4) or road closures (4/4). And to top it all off, another road closed for a few hours tonight because a tree fell on a car
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: Rupert on September 04, 2017, 08:23:12 AM
found this map:
http://disasterresponse.maps.arcgis.com/apps/PublicInformation/index.html?appid=4ae7c683b9574856a3d3b7f75162b3f4
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: ergophobe on September 09, 2017, 05:16:36 AM
Getting a little tired of the completely over the top reporting... so I made a couple of news videos. Here's the first one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBfqmAxgeKA
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: Rupert on September 09, 2017, 06:55:16 AM
Very funny... you have too much time on your hands Tom :)

Thats a good thing....
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: Mackin USA on September 09, 2017, 10:26:18 AM
It MUST be true!
I saw it on the WWW
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: littleman on September 09, 2017, 08:42:08 PM
Those were enjoyable Tom.  Also, it's good to know what you sound/look like.  I have a tendency to build an image my head of people from reading their writing.  I was pretty far from the mark.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: ergophobe on September 09, 2017, 08:52:56 PM
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you have too much time on your hands Tom

First off, I don't believe there is such a thing. As my variation of the WC Fields quote goes: I've spent half my life wandering around lost in the wilderness, and the other half I wasted.

They didn't take long. The only part that took any time was making the inset photo that "melted" Half Dome.

But basically, the genesis of those is that Theresa wanted to test the microphone on her SLR and her iPhone and told me to start speaking, so I did, and I was feeling a bit ranty regarding the way certain things get covered.

The plus side of bad media coverage: the best time to come to Yosemite is typically any time the media is telling you it's dangerous. Spent the day tooling around the Valley, with ample parking everywhere. Very pleasant day. As opposed to when the media reported (falsely) that the waterfalls were the biggest they had been in 30 years.

  I was pretty far from the mark.

Yes, I've been told I'm much taller in writing.

I used to play that game with our rental guests. Now that we're up to several hundred over the years, I have yet to come close once. I try now not to build a picture, but it's hard not to.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: littleman on September 09, 2017, 09:40:27 PM
>taller

You project more grit than I imagined.  Somehow I pictured a little curly haired guy with a mustache and more of a vegan type of build.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: ergophobe on September 10, 2017, 01:57:15 AM
Ha ha! Though not a vegan, I *am* sadly acquiring a vegan build. I found some body measurements I took in 2000 to be the "before" state because was so out of shape at the time, and my thighs are 1.5" smaller than my "out of shape" measurements in 2000. The mustache ain't gonna happen though.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: ergophobe on July 14, 2018, 03:01:33 PM
And... it’s officially summer again, which we now call the Nervous Season

http://goldrushcam.com/sierrasuntimes/index.php/news/local-news/14598-wildfire-reported-near-yosemite-national-park-in-mariposa-county-ferguson-fire

Here we go again

Tom
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: rcjordan on July 14, 2018, 04:24:59 PM
>officially summer again, which we now call the Nervous Season


Yeah, sorry. I was wondering about you when I recently filtered "wildfire" from my feeds.  From the east, it looks like everything west of Missouri is burning.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: ergophobe on July 14, 2018, 06:57:18 PM
>>sorry

Thanks. But, you make your choices and you pay the consequences. We chose to live there (not currently home). We were utterly under-informed about fire, but that's our fault. It has been a bit wearing the last few years though.

>>everything west of Missouri is burning

Last year the acreage burned was 50% above the 40-year average. People are saying this is the new normal.

>> Missouri

They say the line between arid and most America, which John Wesley Powell identified as the 100th meridian, has moved 10 degrees east. But in any case, it used to be just west of Missouri in Nebraska.... now almost all of Missouri is on the wrong side of that line. Expect fires there too
https://e360.yale.edu/digest/a-north-american-climate-boundary-has-shifted-140-miles-east-due-to-global-warming
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: buckworks on July 22, 2018, 07:38:10 PM
Ergophobe, any updates?

I'm hoping you're okay!
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: ergophobe on July 22, 2018, 09:54:19 PM
Safe and sound in Minnesota. We were supposed to head back tomorrow, but we’re under mandatory evacuation

Still a good chance we’ll lose the house. Was looking dire yesterday when the fire jumped the highway. So far it hasn’t jumped the line on our side, but looked like it was making an end run.

They are getting ready to set a huge backfire on the border of our neighborhood and burn about a 5-mike line. If they can pull that off in the next couple of days, our chance of burning drops a lot.

So right now I’m back to giving better than even odds.

At least another week before they will lift the evacuation.

Key thing is for now everyone, residents and firefighters, are relatively  safe. The danger is mostly to property at this point.

It’s also going to cost us a fair bit in lost business in the relative near term. But that’s why we have a largish checking account
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: buckworks on July 22, 2018, 10:31:20 PM
Oh, wow!

I'm glad you're safe ... but your stress levels must be through the roof!

I send a hug to both you and Theresa.

... as if that helps ...
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: Brad on July 22, 2018, 10:35:48 PM
I'm glad you are out of there and safe.  I do hope you don't lose your home.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: ergophobe on July 23, 2018, 01:57:55 AM
Thanks guys. Actually my stress levels are surprisingly fine. This is so utterly and completely out of my control, that on some level it bothers me less than the little things that I do stress about because I believe, rightly or wrongly, that I can do something about them.

The part that does have me bothered is there is a scattering of friends and community. If the community takes a big hit, a big piece of those friendships will go with them. I mean people who have been in our house for a meal or a beer or ice cream twice a week for the last decade. People who, in the midst of trying to save stuff from their house, went to our house and completely loaded our pickup truck and drove it out for us, as if they didn't have enough to do. Those friendships will not be the same if we are scattered. 

It's an interesting exercise in learning what you care about. Easy to say now, though, while I can still be in denial :-)
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: DrCool on July 23, 2018, 04:30:22 PM
I have been back in Spokane, WA for less than a week and there have already been 2 decent sized fires in the area. Both of them close enough to see big smoke plumes. They weren't huge and were contained fairly quickly but the smoke is in the air and it will stay that way for the next 2 months.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: ergophobe on July 24, 2018, 12:10:25 AM
>>smoke is in the air

Life in the Western US. Welcome home!
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: grnidone on July 25, 2018, 11:47:35 PM
So glad to hear you are safe. What a nightmare.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: ergophobe on July 26, 2018, 02:28:25 PM
Things are looking good. Backburn yesterday will give us a lot of comfort once they get that button that up an declare it contained.

Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: rcjordan on July 26, 2018, 03:11:16 PM
Keep us posted, EG.
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: rcjordan on July 28, 2018, 01:19:41 PM
>until today really, it looked highly likely we would lose everything to wildfire(from another thread)

What's going on?

Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: ergophobe on July 28, 2018, 06:06:31 PM
Major backburns protecting the ridge above and below our house have been completed. Once it "blacks in" we will be pretty safe. I think we've mostly reached that point now.

The attached map is bit old. Imagine that ridgeline burn being completed yesterday and you have the general picture.

Now it's mostly the hassle of another 1-3 weeks of evacuation (probably 2) and a crap ton of smoke. And $10-$15,000 in refunded customers. But in the grand scheme, we're pretty relieved
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: littleman on July 29, 2018, 12:17:48 AM
The fire danger seems to be an annual event now in the Yosemite region.  How much have you considered relocating?
Title: Re: Fire Again!!!
Post by: ergophobe on July 29, 2018, 02:04:40 AM
It has been weighing on my mind a lot in the last few years. I would say it's an annual discussion.

That said, the region is big. So this is the first fire in 28 years to threaten our area (at least the first one to threaten it to the point of requiring an evacuation and deploying firefighters to defend it).

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance