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Is it time to review Smart TVs ??
« on: October 28, 2015, 03:10:14 PM »
The Government Just Gave Everyone Permission to Hack Smart TVs

"The nightmare here is that hackers who don’t wear the white hat will figure out how to watch and listen to us through our TVs, but that was apparently not a legitimate concern for the Copyright Office. The petition was brought by the Software Freedom Conservancy for the office’s triennial review, and included an argument that contrary to unfounded fears, hacking could actually make TVs safer for users."

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/10/the-government-just-gave-everyone-permission-to-ha.html
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Re: Is it time to review Smart TVs ??
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2015, 09:42:04 AM »
I'd imagine that "bad guys" aren't overly bothered about breaking copyright rules anyway.

Considering the lack of security that seems to be the norm on these devices, opening them up might actually improve security..

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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2019, 11:58:01 PM »
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This week, Samsung took a bit of heat for urging the company's TV customers to, for the first time, occasionally run an antivirus scan on their television sets. The Tweet was online online briefly before Samsung deleted it, apparently realizing it only advertised the fact that you shouldn't be getting viruses on your TV set in the first place


We're Apparently Scanning Our TVs For Viruses Now | Techdirt
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190617/08491442412/were-apparently-scanning-our-tvs-viruses-now.shtml

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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2019, 12:17:43 AM »
I was looking around Costco: All the TV's were Smart TV's.  No thanks.

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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2019, 01:25:52 AM »
In the long run, I guess we're going to have to learn how to use our routers to micro-manage a device and neuter it.  Something like Pi-hole.

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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2019, 09:57:09 AM »
"In the long run, I guess we're going to have to learn how to use our routers to micro-manage a device and neuter it.  Something like Pi-hole."

RC: can you explain that to an OLD man?
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2019, 12:23:26 PM »
As I (very roughly) comprehend it, those who understand all that IP number and port management magic available in better routers are able to block or limit unwanted traffic to a specific device.  For instance, they wouldn't let a tv send info TO Samsung, only receive.  Pi-hole does that for ad servers, but for privacy and security we probably need more granular control of the data packets coming & going.  There are programs like Wireshark that let you sniff your network traffic --but I don't know how to use it.


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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2019, 01:15:15 PM »
I'm wondering if the OS of the Smart TV might make a difference?  Some use Android, LG uses their version of webOS, others use some OS cooked up in-house.  I think the last Smart TV I would buy, if I ever bought one, would be one with Android.

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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2019, 01:24:02 PM »
There's really no way around it if you want a recent high quality tv.

I threw in the towel last year.

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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2019, 03:27:00 PM »
"There's really no way around it

F#CKERS
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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2019, 10:11:58 PM »
Unless the manufacturer put in an requirement for the tv to ping their servers in order to remain active, I'm pretty sure the smart router guys could lock it down or at least substantially minimize phoning home.  But all of that comes with support nuisances and I doubt many would take the trouble.

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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2019, 10:15:32 PM »
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Remember, you can always kill power when they're not in use.  They sure as hell won't phone home then.  (I do that with one Chinee smarthome device that is known to chat with their servers.)

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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2019, 01:02:09 PM »
>cheap

But that's a tiny 27-inch in the current 50-inch era.  35-inch models, the biggest I could find on Amazon, was $850.  Screens unsubsidized by the sale of your personal data are going to be expensive, I guess.

The price differential reminds me of this article:
The reason why smart TVs are so affordable: They track your data - Business Insider
https://www.businessinsider.com/smart-tv-data-collection-advertising-2019-1