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Let the range wars begin.
« on: January 04, 2022, 09:05:19 PM »
TLDR; 1000km / 621 mi.  Testing. Production 2 or more years away.

Mercedes aims to tackle EV ‘range anxiety’ with new prototype
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/1/4/mercedes-aims-to-tackle-ev-range-anxiety-with-new-prototype

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Re: Let the range wars begin.
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2022, 12:23:56 AM »
Where does all that efficiency gain come from? Going from 18kwh/100km to 10kwh/100km is a massive gain. Has Tesla really just been throwing away 40% of the energy?

That's a "believe it when you see it" thing. This sounds like the old MS vaporware announcements. Make big claims that keep customers on the fence and waiting until you can retool and turn out something that, in the end exceeds Tesla by a little bit? Or maybe start now and hope that in three years when you have to show your work, battery tech is better?

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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2022, 12:29:01 AM »
> "believe it when you see it" thing

Thought the same, but it will start the range war anyway.

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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2022, 04:14:02 PM »
Marketing department is pushing ALL our buttons....

Daimler's EV concept car uses bio-based materials, over 621 miles of range, and solar tech on roof
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/05/daimlers-concept-car-uses-bio-based-materials-has-solar-tech-on-roof.html

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Re: Let the range wars begin.
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2022, 11:13:03 PM »
"Silverado EV also will have a full range of more than 400 miles and be able to charge 100 miles in roughly 10 minutes with a DC fast charger"

GM unveils new electric Chevrolet Silverado priced at $39,900 for work truck to $105,000 for luxury model
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/05/-gm-unveils-new-chevrolet-silverado-ev-topping-100000.html

Wait! So that's $65k for trim?

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Re: Let the range wars begin.
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2022, 05:07:10 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2022, 10:28:47 PM »
Somewhere around 750 miles, the range wars are over. When I was younger, I would have said 1000 miles :-)

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Re: Let the range wars begin.
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2022, 11:16:52 PM »
Yeah, I could live with 600.

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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2022, 11:58:46 PM »
Mfg estimated (marketing dept range) range will always be way optimistic over actual real world range.  Mountains, temp, running A/C, speed, wind, punching it to pass on 2 lane hwy, towing, hauling mother-in-law, etc.

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Re: Let the range wars begin.
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2022, 10:08:06 AM »
Over the New Year I had a go on my brother in law Mi Electric Scooter 3 built by Xiaomi

https://www.mi.com/global/product/mi-electric-scooter-3/

The range of the scooter on their website said 30KM - I covered 42KM on one charge over pretty rough roads (for a scooter) and I was hitting 25KM/H when ever I could.

Lots of fun!

An update of the firmware apparently will increase the speed but not the range.

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Re: Let the range wars begin.
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2022, 01:26:08 PM »
>> Mi Electric Scooter 3 built by Xiaomi

The sun isn't even up yet and I'm lusting for this!

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Re: Let the range wars begin.
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2022, 06:43:29 PM »
No doubt, I want one.