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London Riots...
« on: August 08, 2011, 08:15:54 PM »
Is everyone OK?  I see all the violence and have to wonder...

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Re: London Riots...
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2011, 08:41:50 PM »
See what happens when Jason goes on Holiday!

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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2011, 08:48:17 PM »

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Re: London Riots...
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2011, 11:26:06 AM »
I suspect everyon's OK Heather, considering whats been happening there seem to be very few injured people, although obviously quite a few have damage/fire issues to deal with.

Adam is/used to be in Clapham where they did have problems, so would be nice to hear from him - but it does seem to be quite localised so even people who're in London aren't necessarily caught up in it directly. In one street houses may be burnt to the ground, in the next all is (relatively) normal.

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Re: London Riots...
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2011, 02:48:52 PM »
My God.  The destruction looks much worse than you're talking about.

What started this?  I saw something about a police officer...is this similiar to the LA riots with the Rodney King fiasco?

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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2011, 03:53:20 PM »
its almost impossible to tell the real reasons. A man was fatally shot during an arrest. A non police gun was found at the scene. A police radio has a bullet in it but the bullet is police issue. Everything else on that is unknown/unreliable/supposition so I'm not going to speculate!

On Saturday night a peaceful vigil was held for him which seems to have been somewhat hijacked by people who didn't want to be peaceful. In Tottenham there's a history of police and the public having issues, so how things happened is again supposition unless you were there - everyone seems to say something different. The last couple of nights have seen rioting (well, appears to be more 'looting' to me) in seperate areas of London by people who have no obvious connection with either the original shooting or the area it happened in, and the areas targeted are both rich and poor, the shops range from charity to high end and the people range from 10 year olds up. I doubt they're all doing it for the same reasons, and some of them may just be doing it for a laugh (yeah I know, but they interviewed 2 17 year old girls earlier and one of them was saying "well its fun innit"). Personally I wonder if some of them think

It is crap and the looting is massive but greater London covers 607 square miles, and most of that's not burning or trashed or patrolled by mobs. Its kicked off in a few other cities too but in Bristol its 150 of the usual suspects (out of a population of half a million) taking the opportnity to nick mobile phones.  I don't mean to belittle it, its bloody horrible to watch, but its not some type of Arab Spring moment, imho.



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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2011, 03:53:43 PM »
Have you seen police academy?  It started like that with a discarded apple.

.....actually no it didn't , it was just scum suckers looking for a reason, any reason based on a police shooting.

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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2011, 04:02:39 PM »
There is an article on telegraph online that explains that the riots are the result of Cameron's Big Society initiative.  Apparently Big society gave the disenfranchised a taste of control and ownership which went to their heads.  Horseshit of the highest order.


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Re: London Riots...
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2011, 05:00:24 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2011, 08:55:20 PM »
It's ok!
After standing about observing the rioters the police have finally swooped on the ringleaders.
Here we see the police stopping 3 scumbags, but looks like they're not sure what to do with them
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/09/uk-riots-police-tough-lockdown

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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2011, 12:48:43 AM »
I heard an article today on the radio news (CBC Canada) that the police have been posting pictures that were taken during the disturbances and there has been a steady stream of people phoning and writing in to identify people who were caught on camera.

Social media can work in more than one direction!

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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2011, 05:30:47 AM »
@ Paul  ;D


The rioting could cost taxpayers 100m, according to the Association of British Insurers, with police authorities having to pick up insurance costs. The Riots (Damages) Act 1886 specifies that if damage is caused by people "riotously and tumultuously assembled", local police authorities are required to compensate victims

Oh dear the police force was over stretched and short of cash before this started


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and rightfully so too, this is nothing to do with social issues, unemployment or government cutbacks, this is just pure criminal damage and theft carried out by mindless scumbags and the police are powerless to arrest them unless they are caught in the act

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Re: London Riots...
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2011, 02:20:11 PM »
http://www.twitvid.com/DWZPW

This is England sh##!

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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2011, 07:16:29 PM »
Worth a read....

Dear America - Regarding the London Riots.

http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/jedlz/dear_america_regarding_the_london_riots/


Good quote, but I wonder if views really change much (other than those directly traumatized).  My experience says "not really."

"I predict a lot of those people, as they cower behind their sash windows, are revising their views tonight. The hardening of liberal opinion in London is palpable"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8692429/London-riots-Bleeding-I-called-999.-A-tired-man-told-me-to-go-home.html



« Last Edit: August 10, 2011, 07:19:25 PM by rcjordan »

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Re: London Riots...
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2011, 08:07:15 PM »
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On Thursday 4th August, Mark Duggan is carrying an illegal firearm. Yes, an illegal firearm. He's a drug dealer. The police shoot him. (don't scream "but he didn't shoot first," the fact he had a firearm, and sold drugs is enough to suspect that he may have used it in the past; or may have if a deal went wrong etc.)

I think that is key to why it is so difficult for Yanks to "get it"...in order for you to determine if the firearm is illegal here in the States is that you have to actually look at the firearm and the license to determine that.  In Britain, you're illegal just for carrying one.

And...if that is one of the poorer areas of London, I am struck by how *clean* it is.  No trash ANYWHERE on the street or in the gutters.  It's ... rather nice looking.
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