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« on: August 31, 2017, 12:46:16 PM »

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But the impact of this change will be muffled if millennials continue to vote at much lower rates than their elders, particularly in midterm elections like 2018.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/25/politics/brownstein-millennials-largest-voter-group-baby-boomers/

Meanwhile, tick-tock:

http://th3core.com/talk/marketing/(us)-march-of-the-non-white-babies/
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2017, 01:04:34 PM »

"eligible to vote"

The question is WILL THEY CAST A BALLOT
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2017, 01:42:41 PM »

Debbie says 'Yes, but just barely enough to tip results their way in 2018. By 2020, whitelash will be a lost cause.'
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2017, 02:35:46 PM »

"whitelash"

F Van Jones and the jackass he road in on...
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2017, 02:51:21 PM »

>whitelash

I don't know who originated it, but it's a *great* soundbite. Before that came out, I was using "white man's last stand"  --saves typing!

Hell, I went to General Lee's university where he still effectively lies in state.  I know whitelash pretty well.
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2017, 03:14:56 PM »

"eligible to vote"

The question is WILL THEY CAST A BALLOT

I have said it before and I'll say it again... for all the media negativity surrounding millennials, I really LIKE millennials. Almost all the ones that I come across are both more idealistic AND more realistic and more polite than my generation was at the same age. And generally speaking, more interesting, though that could be me that's changed there.

My neighbor is building a house. His girlfriend's son just graduated from college and has never done a day of manual labor in his life. He spent last week digging ditches, tying rebar and pouring and finishing concrete up to 12 hours a day. He is finding it really hard, which it is. I asked him how long he was planning to stay. He said "I guess as long as Art needs me." Will he vote? I don't know.

Those are the millennials *I* encounter outside of dismissive news articles.
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2017, 03:36:16 PM »

US voting seems to have to do more with age bracket than being a "class" of society. We had the same problem in the Vietnam war era. Lots of b###hing and protesting but poor young-ish voter turnout.  Under 40 just can't get out the vote.  That's why Debbie thinks they'll just barely tip the scales in 2018.  If someone came along to light their collective asses on fire, their vote might be overwhelming.  Then there's the ever-growing Hispanic vote....
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2017, 05:25:29 PM »

I think what the DNC did to Bernie has/will effectively kill millennial voting power.
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2017, 05:40:59 PM »

>DNC

Don't you think that mess will be mopped up and/or hidden by 2018?

I *think* the buy-into-Medicare proposal will give them new legs, but it's awfully hard to say given the general hatred of both parties now.
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2017, 06:18:55 PM »

>Don't you think that mess will be mopped up and/or hidden by 2018?

It really depends on Bernie imo, so far it looks like he's going to be very much out there stumping in 2018.  Best thing the Dems could do is keep Hillary out of the scene.
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2017, 06:29:13 PM »

>Hillary

Agreed. I actually voted against the DNC because it felt too mafia-like.

Bernie is too old ...nearing the top of the mortality tables.

2018 is going to take a lot of popcorn to get through it.
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2017, 06:48:21 PM »

I think what the DNC did to Bernie...

I think what the DNC did to Bernie and what Trump is doing to the Republicans is weakening both parties, certainly party loyalty. I wonder if the millennials will be the group that finally breaks the two-party mafia in the US and gets a more diverse ballot. I think they're kind of over the Dem/Rep thing. If I find anything common among the millennials, I seem to always find a libertarian streak. People who seem kind of liberal on most things, but really want their guns (or whatever their issue is).

And it could just be the millennials I know, but the ones I know seem to have a first step with many questions they have: open a spreadsheet. That behavior right there is terrible for the political parties who have always depended on the emotional appeal of bad policies to win over the rational analysis of good ones. Sure, in some case there are many "right" answers you can get to with a spreadsheet (tax reform has a 1000 "right" answers). But still... I find millennials more likely to have looked at numbers and call bullshit on political rhetoric.

Of course, that's subjective and anecdotal. But then so is my analysis of every generation ;-)
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2017, 07:03:51 PM »

Voters really don't want to face the what it's really going to cost  on any issue and prefer fairy tales. In the past, I didn't see much difference in that by age group. Each group had its pet platform plank to champion but most of the cost projections were blue sky or outright lies.  (Remember the flat tax? )

>spreadsheet

I was just about to post that I do believe fact-checking sites are having an impact now --particularly with the younger demographic who are reading their news online.   Social is a wildcard, though.

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Notice how much the bean-counters in the CBO have been called into the fray lately.
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2017, 05:08:16 PM »

>Don't you think that mess will be mopped up and/or hidden by 2018?

I think that left a huge chunk of his grassroots movement disgusted after learning the harsh realities of how rigged the system is. At least some of these people punched FU votes for Trump, I suspect many.

I dunno what 2018 might hold, but I doubt it will include that real momentum that Bernie mustered, any time in the near future.

>Bernie is too old ...nearing the top of the mortality tables.
Yeah, that was a one-time shot.
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