The Core

heheheeh boys, if it were up to you Brits, and we didn't have guns, we'd be talking this over a cup of tea;)

You REALLY need to revise your national identity myth (but then every country should) - at the very least drop the that particular theory for the 'need for gun ownership', it just doesn't stand up to any kind of analysis.

Seriously though, surely, the statistical reality of 'risk' and the armed paranoia are miles apart ? .. or are you really trying to kill each other all the time?


I know this doesn't matter to you all that much, but whenever you guys 'go off on one' about guns, it just makes much of the 'rest of the world' think you are all paranoid nutters.

Yeah - I know that is not how you guys see it - and that you have all spent endless hours/lifetimes debating the pro-gun anti-gun thing - but really, how do you reconcile the whole thing when you look at other nations that don't 'do' gun ownership - or that do it in a more restrained way (eg. Canada)?

That's gotta be an African warthog...isn't it?  

I heard of the "Pigzilla" shot in Georgia...shot by a kid.  But it was part domestic pig...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_Pig

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I just realized I confused the two stories:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogzilla

Texas has open season all year on feral pigs.  People are encouraged to shoot as many as they like due to the fact they are non-native and extremely prolific.

Hmmm a rare pig. They said they called them a 'bacon pig'... I like the sound of that:)

You really know where to buy the meat? It must be hard to find?

I've been to a real range only 2X, and while it's pretty cool to to check out different weapons to get a feel for them, imo, it's 10X more fun to shoot into water.... especially with the full autos. It gives you real-time feedback as to where the rounds are going, and it's awesome to see the water jumping around. The friends I've brought with me actually laugh and get all goofy after only the first banana clip, and they remind me of the day 15 years after I already forgot they came to visit.

In PA, we still have old abandoned strip mines, where they came in and ruined the place to get to the coal near the surface 50 years ago, and about the only redeeming quality left to the places are that they are littered with small ponds where nothing can grow (because of the acid mine drainage, which is a result of the oxidation of metals exposed to the air and water) and so we find bottles and cans and whatever else the (other) rednecks dumped out there and blow the crap out of it with M16s, AK47s, Uzis, whatever.

One time we found a VW bug someone had torched but was still largely intact and my dad and I laid into until we had the thing literally rocking:)  One of benefits of being the son of a Class 3 weapons dealer:)

For those of you that like shotguns, you ought to try 'sporting clays'...

"often described as "golf with a shotgun" because a typical course includes from 10 to 15 different shooting stations laid out over natural terrain. For safety, the course size is often no smaller than 35 acres (140,000 m2). Unlike trap and skeet, which are games of repeatable target presentations, sporting clays simulates the unpredictability of live-quarry shooting, offering a great variety of trajectories, angles, speeds, elevations, distances, and target sizes.[...]A typical course consists of 10 to 15 stations, with each station presenting targets from trap machines. Usually 5 to 10 targets are shot at each station by a squad of up to six shooters for a total outing of 50 to 100 targets per person. Targets are thrown as singles and pairs. A pair of targets may be thrown as a true pair (or sim pair, i.e., thrown at the same time), as a following pair (thrown sequentially), or on report (the second clay launched on the report of the shooter’s gun).[4] Numerous hunting conditions can be simulated by combining various speeds and angles with different types of clay targets. Each station is unique. Throughout a course, the shooters might see targets crossing from either side, coming inward, going outward, flying straight up, rolling on the ground, arcing high in the air, or thrown from towers. -wiki

>THAT's a big pig, BIG

That's why I am going to use BIG BIG bullets:) Slugs, actually.  Believe it or not, their hide is so tough any kind of bird shot wont even work, and '00 buck shot isn't recommended on anything over 25 yards.  Every hunter I know, that has any experience with them, told me horror stories about how they are like trying to kill zombies once they go into charging mode, and that I should never go alone because you need backup.  In fact, most agree that while they aren't the most dangerous animal in the US, they are definitely one of the most dangerous animal to hunt because they are more likely to charge than run away, even the little ones, and they seem to come out of nowhere at close range.

I'm headed out on my bike tomorrow to go knock on farmers' doors to see if I can get permission to hunt on their land maybe the following Saturday, and then go shoot some skeet so I can to get comfortable with quick firing the gun and then maybe a range with the slugs to make sure I like the ammo, calibrate trajectory etc. before I go out in the field.


>Crazy trigger happy yanks

That would make for a good t-shirt:) But, yeah, now this place is public, I should really take my more controversial 'off topic' water cooler discussion elsewhere, because if I start posting dead animal pics like I used to in my annual 'tis the season' threads, they may get deleted like my video of that girl dancing at the pool party in the bathing suit.  And while it was totally PG, and complied with Facebook's TOS, as well as the TOS here, and is totally normal and encouraged at the public bars I frequent... I guess others in here felt it reflected poorly on the forum, instead of just reflecting poorly on me.  

So from now on I'm going to do my best to stay on topic and find other forums to post in like this one:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=589944
...I just found where I was able to solicit 30+ responses about JUST THE MAGAZINE SPRING inside this gun, not even the gun itself!  You want to talk about looneys, I am in EPIC company over there...