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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: Drastic on July 28, 2020, 01:31:21 PM

Title: New, Good Media
Post by: Drastic on July 28, 2020, 01:31:21 PM
TV - Yellowstone. Kevin Costner is a ranch owner with family hanging onto the old life. Beautiful landscapes and cinematography.

Movies - Apocalypse Now Final Cut (2019) - great remaster, interesting cut. A bit let down, not sure if it's because it hasn't aged as well as I remembered or I was expecting more from the cut. Probably both. Loved the Dolby Atmos mix.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: ergophobe on July 28, 2020, 04:31:57 PM
>>interesting cut

Are there significant differences? That is, things that change the feel of the movie or even the plot?

>> hasn't aged as well as I remembered

Neither have I. I was just looking at some old pictures of myself. Time is a cruel master. That said, my all-time favorite movie (Jeremiah Johnson) still holds up for me. But the first time I saw it after 20 or 30 years, I found Redford's acting not great. But then I watched every couple of years and I grew to love it again.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: Drastic on July 28, 2020, 05:15:04 PM
The plot didn't change, and it's been a while since I saw the original. There were scenes that were new, for sure, that were more of a fill-in, I think.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: ergophobe on July 28, 2020, 05:33:26 PM
I was wondering in particular about the scenes with Brando, since "Coppola admitted that he had no ending because Brando was too fat to play the scenes as written in the original script."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse_Now


Knowing only Apocalypse Now and Godfather, I never understood the whole Brando cult. Then I saw him in Streetcar Named Desire, and I thought, "Oh, now I get it. "
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: littleman on July 29, 2020, 12:49:07 AM
I just watched Jeremiah Johnson for the first time a couple of months ago.  I could see how the film would intersect with your life choices.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: littleman on July 29, 2020, 01:42:02 AM
If you like Tarantino movies Once Upon a Time in Hollywood may be interesting to you.  It is a story based on an alternative timeline of a historical event.

The Irishman if you like mob movies.

The Nightingale an Australian film.

Fleabag & Russian Doll, two irreverent series with modern humor sensibilities

Chernobyl is suppose to be pretty good, haven't seen it.

Did you watch the Deadwood series?  There was a movie made last year that wraps it up.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: ergophobe on July 29, 2020, 04:07:38 AM
Other end of the spectrum, but we both liked "The Half of It." It's a high school romance, but quite different.

The script was a 2018 Blacklist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_List_(survey)) selection.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: nffc on July 29, 2020, 08:33:31 AM
>Godfather, I never understood the whole Brando cult.

Take that slander back!
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: BoL on July 29, 2020, 08:56:15 AM
>Chernobyl

Well worth a look, very well made

Peaky Blinders is decent, the British mob in the interwar period mixed in with the Communist uprisings in Brummie land
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: littleman on July 29, 2020, 07:40:14 PM
>Peaky Blinders

Yeah, good show.  It also reminded me to mention Babylon Berlin.  It's a German show, also during the interwar period, quite good.

edit:spelling
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: Drastic on July 29, 2020, 10:29:20 PM
I was wondering in particular about the scenes with Brando, since "Coppola admitted that he had no ending because Brando was too fat to play the scenes as written in the original script."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse_Now


Knowing only Apocalypse Now and Godfather, I never understood the whole Brando cult. Then I saw him in Streetcar Named Desire, and I thought, "Oh, now I get it. "

It actually seemed like his part was a bit abbreviated. Again though, it's been a while since I saw the original and it had a more profound effect on me the first time.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: gm66 on July 31, 2020, 01:03:07 PM
The BBC Dracula series on Netflix is well-done, i normally find BBC productions a bit dull but this is an exception.

Greyhound is a submariner flick with Tom Hanks as captain of the boat. It was okay but there were better sub films made in the 50s.

If you haven't seen Spaced, it's not new but it's funny, that's also on Netflix at the moment, old British comedy TV series.

It's also well worth searching youtube for short films, there's some amazing 'amateur' work going on, especially with CGI.

Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: Drastic on August 18, 2020, 12:24:11 PM
>>Peaky Blinders

Thanks! Started this week and really like it so far.

Also Condor TV series is pretty solid.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: Mackin USA on August 19, 2020, 11:30:33 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downton_Abbey
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: ergophobe on August 19, 2020, 07:01:31 PM
I really enjoyed After Life, with Ricky Gervais. It's a bit dark. You have to stick with it. I just watched the first episode of season 2 and will definitely watch the rest.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: littleman on August 28, 2020, 02:13:02 AM
>After Life

Likes the first season, the second season wasn't as good imo.


If you want light but sort of smart Cobra Kai is surprisingly good.  It builds on the story of the Karate Kid movies.  The show can be funny, sometimes goofy, but there is some depth to it too.  For instance, instead of the typical story of how good people go bad, it explores how people with good intentions can do harm when they are filled with the wrong ideas.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: ergophobe on August 28, 2020, 04:47:21 PM
We watched a couple last night. I thought it opened slowly, perhaps because I and was expecting something lighter based on your description, but we gave it a second episode and got pulled into the story. It's interesting what 35 years has done to storytelling. KKI was a pure good/evil story. 35 years later, there's no Mr Miyagi. Everyone is a little good and a little evil and the fun is trying to parse it all out. We're definitely in for the whole season now.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: littleman on August 28, 2020, 07:03:52 PM
Light is relative I guess, but compared to other shows/movies on this list I'd call it light.  There were some moments when I've laughed out loud which doesn't happen to often for me.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: ergophobe on August 28, 2020, 07:35:23 PM
Yes, light is relative. Our previous watch was "I Am Not Your Negro," about James Baldwin. Very good. Definitely not light, but very much worth a watch. I wish it had been longer.

We also watched Ip Man, which is fairly light, despite a background of Japanese atrocities in China during WWII. It has nothing to do with the actual life of Ip Man. Best thought of as a propaganda film for China.

The ending is precious - it says that Ip Man moved to Hong Kong after the Chinese defeated the Japanese in 1945. If I think really hard, I seem to recall some other countries involved in that effort too... if I could only remember who they were...
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: DrCool on August 31, 2020, 05:26:52 PM
>Ip Man

As far as storytelling and overall quality the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Ip Man movies definitely take a step down. Still good fight scenes and all that if you just want something mindless on in the background.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: jetboy on August 31, 2020, 09:14:45 PM
Favourite movies of the year so far, with the caveat that it's been far from a vintage one:

1917
Hamilton
Come As You Are
Richard Jewell
Dark Waters
The Gentlemen
Just Mercy
The Platform [subtitled]
The Rhythm Section
Les Miserables [subtitled]
7500
Bombshell
Stage Mother
Why Don't You Just Die! [subtitled]
The Vigil
Beastie Boys Story [documentary]
JoJo Rabbit
Days Of The Bagnold Summer
Proxima
Alice [subtitled]
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: littleman on September 01, 2020, 08:43:27 AM
>JoJo Rabbit

If you liked JoJo you'd probably like The Death of Stalin.  They are very complimentary films.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: littleman on September 12, 2020, 02:53:23 AM
Jetboy, thanks for the list.  I'm watching Come As You Are right now and really enjoying it.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: jetboy on September 12, 2020, 10:47:36 AM
Cool  :) Mulan would be on the list now. I didn't get on with Tenet or The New Mutants.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: gm66 on September 12, 2020, 11:20:37 PM
I really enjoyed After Life, with Ricky Gervais. It's a bit dark. You have to stick with it. I just watched the first episode of season 2 and will definitely watch the rest.

It crosses lines for me, i hate to sound like Mary Whitehouse, but lots of modern humour isn't even toilet-humour, it's just toilets, i find myself watching older comedies more often.

I blame the dumbing down of education in general and the tendency to disencourage (is that a bloody word?) imagination , lots of  the young script writers are thick as two short planks compared to stuff like Monty Python, Seinfeld and Friends, which is generationally recent.

This is embarrasing for me but i'' share it with the group because forums are basically group-therapy in the end ;+} I've become hooked on a reality TV show called Below Decks, on Bravo i think in the US.

In the face of crap drama on TV, at least these series are real so you're getting real reactions (i know they stage parts of it).
I'm shuting up now, there's no excuse, i'm just watching crap, i have COVID lazy-brain disease.

I've probably said these before but they are always worth rementioning :

Life After Beth.
Phil The Alien.
Bad Milo.
Lars And The Real Girl.

If i could only own one film it would be the 82 Blade Runner commercial release not the directors cut, madly enough i found Sean Young's YT channel a couple of years back and she responded to a couple of posts. If you like blade runner her channel is worth a visit, she has private video of Sting filming Dune and other things : https://www.youtube.com/user/msyPARIAH

Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: gm66 on September 14, 2020, 09:50:03 PM
How about the news? Totally fictional comedy-drama with a good dose of condescension thrown in. Lap it up.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: ergophobe on September 15, 2020, 10:09:30 PM
>>If i could only own one film

Hands down, Jeremiah Johnson
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: BoL on September 16, 2020, 09:08:57 AM
>one film

Last Samurai, for me. "Necessary. What could be more necessary?"
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: jetboy on September 16, 2020, 05:18:16 PM
One film? Gremlins.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: BoL on October 05, 2020, 08:29:30 PM
Just watched David Attenborough's "A Life on our Planet" (Netflix). Makes a lot of sense. Preserve biodiversity and focus on poorer parts of the world becoming sustainable with less children. Insane how much our planet has been adapted within a few generations. Reckon biodiversity supercedes any human ideas of progress, but hopefully we can sort that in the coming decades.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: Rupert on October 05, 2020, 08:59:23 PM
Just bought a job lot of bond films on ebay... ready for the cold long nights of winter, ....locked down.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: littleman on February 02, 2021, 06:53:26 PM
Shows:
The Expanse is pretty good scifi.
The Kominsky Method (Michael Douglas/Alan Arkin), light dramady
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: rcjordan on February 14, 2021, 11:16:52 PM
The One I Love (2014) - on Netflix.  A Twilight Zone-y movie that bills itself as a chick flick ---but it's not. Light suspense.  You'll talk about it after it's over.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: ergophobe on February 15, 2021, 05:27:43 AM
>>The Expanse

We've both enjoyed that too. Like many series, the more seasons, the less compelling. But the first three seasons are all good.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: littleman on February 15, 2021, 06:01:39 AM
>Like many series, the more seasons, the less compelling.

I'd agree that there was a fall off, but it is a gradual taper with the fifth season being the weakest so far.  Still better than most though.  A show that really did that was the relaunch of BSG, the first season and the mini-series before that were really very good, by the last season the show was a complete mess.  Fargo was great for season 1-3 but the last season was just OK.  I like how the different time periods interact though.


RC, I'll give it a watch and get back to you.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: ergophobe on February 15, 2021, 05:43:49 PM
Yes, we definitely still liked season 4 and will probably watch season 5. But seasons 1-3 are very strong storytelling.

I think one thing that happens with series, both books and movies, is that the authors start with an idea for a complete story arc but then, having found success, they keep writing in that world, but the overall direction becomes less clear. So it ends up becoming more episodic. In other words, it switches from Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter to Hardy Boys or a superhero comic book.

Writing is easy. Writing well is one of the hardest things there is.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: ergophobe on February 15, 2021, 05:46:30 PM
LM - have you seen Altered Carbon? If you like the Expanse, I think you would like that.

BTW, we watched a movie we both liked a lot, but it is definitely not for everyone. Almost nothing happens.

In Paterson, Adam Driver is a poet who drives a bus for the city of Paterson, NJ. I would be hard-pressed to even say why we liked it.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: littleman on February 15, 2021, 11:54:26 PM
I watched Altered Carbon, it's quite dystopian.

I enjoyed Paterson too.  I didn't recommend it because I don't think it would be for everyone's taste.

>The One I Love

That was good RC.
Title: Re: New, Good Media
Post by: rcjordan on February 16, 2021, 03:15:21 AM
We watched EG's "The Half of It" on NF.  Enjoyed it pretty much.

I don't want to get invested in a series.  Looking for movies.